June 11, 2021
An argument is brewing at Watts Up with That's Facebook page.
Reader Antoinne posted:
Volcanoes emit far less than us https://climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/which-emits-more-carbon-dioxide-volcanoes-or-human-activities
I reply:
One need but look at the web address provided DOT GOV. What do you think the government is going to say? They have a vested interest in the success of global warming hysteria, as it will provide them with a vast increase in power and money.
But that is not all; the fact is this information is old news and based almost entirely on Gerlach's work on volcanoes. Gerlach used just the big, obvious active volcanoes he could find at the time. Completely ignored was the multiple small ones, and the many undersea volcanoes. See here for more.
Also, we really do not know how much carbon dioxide we are putting into the atmosphere. We are simply taking the atmospheric rise, subtracting what we THINK is being put out by nature, then claiming the remains are anthropogenic. But the fact is carbon dioxide levels continued to rise during the pandemic shutdown when we saw a 25% drop in industrial activity which should have translated to a 25% slowdown in the growth of CO2. There was no bump in the curve at all. CO2 levels kept rising at the same rate. So what do we know? Nowhere nearly as much as we THINK we know.
Richard Cronin adds:
Of far greater significance than continental or subaerial volcanoes are submarine volcanoes, hydrothermal vents, seeps, rifts, and oceanic ridge systems. Using sonar and other sensing techniques across vast areas of the oceans, Hillier and Watt estimate that there are between 1 to 3 million submarine volcanoes. Oregon State posts the smaller number on their website. This is only volcanoes. There are also hydrothermal vents, seeps, rifts, oceanic ridges as well as smoldering forest fires which have gone completely undetected until identified by satellites.
http://www.principia-scientific.org/volcanic-carbon-dioxide.html/
In truth, any debate about CO2 is irrelevant.
We are the WATER PLANET, not the CO2 planet. Water, moving thru the water cycle, is a nearly infinite and adjustable cooling system.
Yet in their rush to quantify the hypothesized effects of CO2, Svente Arrhenius (1896) and Gilbert Plass (1956) eliminated the convection of water vapor and held cloud cover constant !!
The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, fellow climate schemers, carbon taxers and "renewable energy†scammers all admit that water is the greatest heat trapping molecule but then ignore it for any calculations or bogus "modeling†because it is unimaginably complex in its many forms and humidity is in constant change. Water is present as vapor, liquid, liquid admixtures (i.e. salt water), snow ( with entrained air), ice with gas pockets, sleet, hail, dew, fog, frost, sublimed. The liquid state of the oceans is particularly important because the ocean waters — with suspended solids — absorbs ALL electromagnetic radiation within a few feet of the surface.
In the conditions of our atmosphere, water is not an emissive gas, as is CO2. Water vapor is Condensible. Water vapor releases its heat via phase change to rain and snow. The "modelers†only consider emissive (non-condensible) gases.
CO2 comprises 0.04 of one (1) percent in our atmosphere. It is a highly emissive molecule. It does not "trap heatâ€. Upon heating then cooling back down, it re-radiates infrared radiation in approx. 0.0001 of one (1) second and in all directions. It scatters any radiation. It does not point it back down at the ground like some kind of mirror. Any warming properties attributed to CO2 are less than trivial. There are no commercial applications for CO2 as an insulator ( heat trapping). There are myriad applications for water as a "heat trapping†and heat conducting fluid.
Climate change Alarmists claim water vapor as a greenhouse gas but even that is a misnomer. Water vapor absorbs long wave infrared (LWIR) but as it warms it convects upward, forms clouds, reaches saturation and produces rain and snow, thereby conveying the heat off the planet via Infrared emission from cloud tops.
The criminal pseudo-scientists deliberately conflate the terms "heat trapping†with "greenhouse gasâ€. The first term is real, for the case of water. The second term is meaningless.
The Earth’s biome is not an enclosed system such as a greenhouse. It is a multivariate, open, chaotic and dynamic control system. It is impossible to model local temperatures more than 3 days in advance, much less decades into the future.
John Tyndall’s demonstrations during the 1850s of CO2 as a "heat trapping†fluid were conducted in an sealed tube which in no way reflects the Earth’s biome. Tyndall’s sealed tube apparatus was replicated in 1900 by Knute Angstrom and totally debunked.
Water is the dominant actor in regulating the planet within a nicely habitable range via phase change - condensation & freezing.
Rather than an enclosed greenhouse, the better description for water vapor in our atmosphere is as a patchy blanket that spreads warmth along the surface ( moderating temperatures), but cold, dry air above a patchy layer of clouds. Eventually water carries heat away from the Earth . Water vapor only holds the heat for a short period, approx. 10 days.
"No Experimental Evidence For The Significant Anthropogenic Climate Changeâ€
J. Kauppinen and P. Malmi.
University of Turku, Finland.
July 2, 2019
Key Statement:
Low cloud cover controls practically the global temperature
The linked paper is posted in arXiv which is maintained by Cornell University.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf
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