This from Frank Lasee:

Glaciers give up their treasures from warmer times. Glaciers have been ebbing and flowing since the cold times began, eons ago. Even in the last 10,000 years it has been warmer than it is now. When glaciers were much smaller than now. Without the benefits of CO2 levels at 410 parts per million of the atmosphere. Many glaciers were retreating in the warm 1920s and 1930s.

Chester McAteer adds:

About two years ago researchers found another of the 8 USAF planes that made an emergency landing on Greenland during WWII in 1942, it was buried under 340 feet of snowpack ice. There was also one found in 1995 under 268 feet of snowpack ice, prior to that one was found in 1988 under 240 feet of snowpack ice. Now think about the fact that in the last 77 years, during the period we are told has been one of the greatest warming of the climate, 340 feet of snowpack ice has accumulated over Greenland. Absolutely none of this had to do with the Trace gas CO2 which, throughout the geological record has always tracked temperature increases, not led them.

Think about this for just a moment, Iat the end of 2017 researchers discovered that the island of Zhokhov, in the high Arctic was forested with birch trees just 9000 years ago until about 3000 years ago when the climate became so cold that nothing grew on the island. Not only that but the now uninhabitable island was inhabited by humans who enjoyed temperatures at least 6°C hotter than current temperatures in the high Arctic. An interesting point is that the humans hunted Polar Bears, Seals and Walrus in an Arctic that was almost free of sea ice for most of the year. Oh, the poor polar bears! They have been around for an estimated 1.7 million years and survived every climate whether warm or cold. Does that raise any questions in your mind given the current ideas about global warming?

Temperatures peaked between 7800 and 8000 BC years ago, the period is known as the Holocene Optimal because temperatures were ideal for all plant life, animal and sea life, but since the peak temperatures they have been falling to the point that our temperatures today are closer to those during the period immediately after the end of the last ice age than to those of the peak during the Holocene Maximum.

From the peak temperatures of the Holocene Optimal they dropped to the Minoan Warming Period, then cooler to the Roman Warming Period. During the Roman Warming temperatures were high enough for the Romans to import ancient Mediterranean wine grape vines and cultivate them in the northern part of Britain, not only that but there is evidence that Mediterranean wine grape vines were cultivated in Scandinavia and Northern Russia. That's impossible in today's cold temperatures.

After the Roman Warming Period came the Medieval Warming Period, it was so warm during that time the Vikings colonized Greenland and thrived, importing ancient European Barley, they grew fruit trees and warm weather vegetables until once again it became too cold and they starved. Few realize that most of the Glaciers were gone or greatly reduced during the Holocene Optimal until they began to greatly advance during the Little Ice Age.

Another thing to think about is two years ago researchers found another of the 8 USAF planes that made an emergency landing on Greenland during WWII in 1942, it was buried under 340 feet of snowpack ice. There was also one found in 1995 under 268 feet of snowpack ice, prior to that one was found in 1988 under 240 feet of snowpack ice. Now think about the fact that in the last 77 years, during the period we are told has been one of the greatest warming of the climate, 340 feet of snowpack ice has accumulated over Greenland. Absolutely none of this had to do with the Trace gas CO2 which, throughout the geological record has always tracked temperature increases, not led them.

Antarctica, for instance, contains most of the world's ice, if it didn't put on one more inch of ice each year, it would take 250,000 years for it to be ice free. But it accumulates far more ice than it loses each year.

Greenland did indeed lose a lot of ice last year, in fact it loses a great deal of ice every year and has for thousands of years. The Denmark Ice Tracker reports that while Greenland lost 500 gigatons it gained far more than it lost, as it does every year. Even at that rate, if it lost that much without ever gaining more ice it's been estimated that it would take 12,000 years for it to be ice free. Plus, Greenland, like the Arctic and Antarctica have, it's been recently discovered, massive sub-glacial and submarine volcanic and thermal vent activity contributing to ice loss.

For the fifth year in a row, Greenland's largest Glacier, Jakobshavan Glacier, which was once the fastest retreating Glacier in the world, is now rapidly advancing. The Russian glacier Vavilov, once growing 60 feet a year is now growing 82 feet a day. New Zealand reports that all 58 of their Glaciers are now growing.

NASA reported as far back as 2015 that the ice gain in Antarctica is also far more than the ice loss.

Since a low ice extent in the Arctic in 2012, NASAs MODIS has shown enormous ice extent for the last 5 years, so the evidence is very different than seems to be publicized.

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