November 14, 2020
Trump Shouldn't Concede
James Doogue
Why Trump Shouldn't Concede Just Yet
The Trump team have credible constitutional arguments and claims of fraud and irregularities. They deserve time to pursue those claims through the courts given relatively few votes could make the difference between victory and defeat.
Besides, Trump put up with four years of official investigations and enquiries based on ridiculous claims by the Democrats who were determined to overturn his presidency.
If Trump conceded defeat now, while his team are still sorting through constitutional issues and claims of voter fraud and irregularities, he'd make things far too difficult to walk back.
As soon as Trump conceded, an official Presidential Transition Authority would be established and funded. Biden would be entitled to full security briefings and members of his team would start sitting in on official business.
A number of states haven't even certified their counts yet and the Electoral Voters are not officially cast until 14 December So Trump has at least until then to explore his challenges.
Sure, if the election results weren't close, you would expect the loser to concede. But that's not the case. Five 'battleground' states seperate Biden and Trump by relatively small margins.
At the moment, all but one have Biden in the lead, and if that is the end result, Biden will end up with 306 Electoral votes, the same number Trump won in 2016. A result that Hillary Clinton incidentally had never accepted - calling Trump an illegitimate President.
Constitutional Matters
The Elections Clause of the Constitution (Article I, Section 4) gives state legislatures the authority to set the time, place and manner of federal elections, i.e., the rules governing the election process, including absentee ballots.
Courts and secretaries of state do not have the authority (COVID-19, meteors, visitors from outer space, etc. notwithstanding). Yet in some cases, just days before the election, the voter rules regarding mail-in ballots and voter identification were changed at the behest of the Biden campaign, by State Attorneys general, or state Democrat dominated Supreme courts.
Trump rightly states that neither state courts — like in Pennsylvania — nor other state officials/agencies — like the state board of elections in North Carolina — have the legal authority to simply override a state statute and extend the deadline for the receipt of absentee ballots,
The Trump campaign argue that any ballots received after the deadline imposed by the legislature in state law are illegal and should not be counted. Trump deserves the time to contest this issue in court before deciding on whether to concede.
In Pennsylvania, one of the most hotly contested swing states, election officials have already issued orders to segregate late-arriving mail ballots in preparation for this litigation. Apparently there are only about 10,000 late ballots. Too few to make up the 70,000 lead Biden has in that state , but they may be crucial in light of other matters the Trump team are addressing.
Oakland County 'Computer Glitch'
But the experience of an Oakland 15th District Republican County commissioner shows Trump shouldn't concede while there is even a slim chance he could win.
In the Rochester Hills district the initial vote count gave a 104-vote margin to the Democrat, Melanie Hartman, amounting giving her a majority of 50.08%. The Republican incumbent, Adam Kochenderfer conceded.
The next day a 'conputer glitch' was discovered, and deducted 1,200 votes which had been double counted for Democrat Hartman. This made the new margin 1,127 votes in favour of the Republican Kochenderfer giving him a 51.67% share of total votes.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/06/michigan-republican-down-104-votes-wins-by-1127-after-glitch-fixed/
In their case the problem was discovered early and fixed, and the elected position not that significant.
With Trump/Biden, we are talking about the most powerful political position in the world. Surely that is why Trump should be very sure if he concedes?
Antrim County 'Computer Glitch'
Michigan, a battleground state worth 16 electoral has already been called for Biden.
'A glitch in software used to tabulate ballots in Antrim County, Michigan caused at least 6,000 Republican votes to be counted as Democrat, according to Michigan GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox.
The miscalculation, Cox said in a press conference, was first reported by a county clerk.' They had to do a hand count of the ballots in Antrim county.
There are 47 counties in Michigan which may have also suffered from a similar glitch with the same software. That's surely a good reason to question the results in those counties?
At the moment, nobody is seriously suggesting Trump could overturn the Michigan call because he's trailing Biden by 145,000 votes. But what if a 6,000 vote error was found in each of the other 46 Michigan counties using the same software?
That would move 276,000 votes from Biden to Trump, giving the latter a 131,000 vote lead and clear winner of 16 electoral votes.
What if there are 'computer glitches' in other counties in battleground states other than Michigan which have much smaller margins between Biden and Trump?
Trump Campaign's 234 Pages Evidence
What of the 234 pages of sworn affidavits obout irregularities and fraud already submitted to the courts by the Trump campaign? Surely that needs to be checked out before the election results are certified and Trump reacts accordingly? See 234 page PDF file here: https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/7483/3.%20EXHIBIT%201%20(affidavits)%20(compressed).pdf
Some of the claims in the affidavits may be false (at risk of perjury charges and up to 10 years jail). Many may even be frivolous. But from what I've seen, there is plenty of substantiated evidence including:
- Ballots which should have been disqualified were accepted.
- Ballots where signatures were not present or verified or where dates of birth were not credible, or were not entered.
- Republican poll watchers obstructed from being able to observe while hundreds of thousands of votes were counted for Biden.
- Mail-in ballots accepted after the close of voting.
Who knows how many of these claimed will be verified and whether it is sufficient to change the election results as they currently stand?
Surely Trump of all people has the right to delay conceding the election until these matters are sorted out, and if necessary manual re-counts, or new elections are carried out?
After all, for almost his entire presidency, Trump had to endure Democrats using every possible angle to try to overturn his presidency.
Trump's claims of voter fraud or irregularities are a great deal more credible than the Democrat allegation that Trump was a Russian asset. A claim endorsed by Trump opponent Hillary Clinton. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/10/07/new-evidence-bolsters-claim-hillary-clinton-stirred-up-a-trump-russia-scandal-to-distract-from-emails-n1011407
Trump's claims of voter fraud and irregularities deserve more of a hearing than the Democrat's attempt to impeach Trump on allegations he insisted the Ukrainian President investigate Hunter and Joe Biden's connections with Burisma, otherwise he'd withhold military aid. Particularly since Joe Biden had bragged about doing what Trump was falsely accused of, when Biden was Vice President, when he forced Ukraine to sack their Attorney General who was opening an investigation into Burisma - which would have uncovered that he and his son Hunter were acting corruptly. See here for that evidence: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/05/19/leaked-audio-of-joe-bidens-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-call-destroys-msm-narrative-about-shokins-ouster-n407354
The recount dispute in Florida's 2000 presidential election between George W. Bush and Al Gore. [Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000)] , was a decision of the United States Supreme Court handed down on December 12, 2000, 5 weeks after election day. That was a dispute over election procedures in just one state. Trump has multiple state actions, so they will take time to resolve. Until then, Trump should not concede even if that is the likely outcome.
He owes it both to his own supporters, but also to clarify the legitimacy of Biden's election, should that be the result.
Picture: Bush and Gore supportes in December 2000 outside the US Supreme Court.
Why Trump Shouldn't Concede Just Yet
The Trump team have credible constitutional arguments and claims of fraud and irregularities. They deserve time to pursue those claims through the courts given relatively few votes could make the difference between victory and defeat.
Besides, Trump put up with four years of official investigations and enquiries based on ridiculous claims by the Democrats who were determined to overturn his presidency.
If Trump conceded defeat now, while his team are still sorting through constitutional issues and claims of voter fraud and irregularities, he'd make things far too difficult to walk back.
As soon as Trump conceded, an official Presidential Transition Authority would be established and funded. Biden would be entitled to full security briefings and members of his team would start sitting in on official business.
A number of states haven't even certified their counts yet and the Electoral Voters are not officially cast until 14 December So Trump has at least until then to explore his challenges.
Sure, if the election results weren't close, you would expect the loser to concede. But that's not the case. Five 'battleground' states seperate Biden and Trump by relatively small margins.
At the moment, all but one have Biden in the lead, and if that is the end result, Biden will end up with 306 Electoral votes, the same number Trump won in 2016. A result that Hillary Clinton incidentally had never accepted - calling Trump an illegitimate President.
Constitutional Matters
The Elections Clause of the Constitution (Article I, Section 4) gives state legislatures the authority to set the time, place and manner of federal elections, i.e., the rules governing the election process, including absentee ballots.
Courts and secretaries of state do not have the authority (COVID-19, meteors, visitors from outer space, etc. notwithstanding). Yet in some cases, just days before the election, the voter rules regarding mail-in ballots and voter identification were changed at the behest of the Biden campaign, by State Attorneys general, or state Democrat dominated Supreme courts.
Trump rightly states that neither state courts — like in Pennsylvania — nor other state officials/agencies — like the state board of elections in North Carolina — have the legal authority to simply override a state statute and extend the deadline for the receipt of absentee ballots,
The Trump campaign argue that any ballots received after the deadline imposed by the legislature in state law are illegal and should not be counted. Trump deserves the time to contest this issue in court before deciding on whether to concede.
In Pennsylvania, one of the most hotly contested swing states, election officials have already issued orders to segregate late-arriving mail ballots in preparation for this litigation. Apparently there are only about 10,000 late ballots. Too few to make up the 70,000 lead Biden has in that state , but they may be crucial in light of other matters the Trump team are addressing.
Oakland County 'Computer Glitch'
But the experience of an Oakland 15th District Republican County commissioner shows Trump shouldn't concede while there is even a slim chance he could win.
In the Rochester Hills district the initial vote count gave a 104-vote margin to the Democrat, Melanie Hartman, amounting giving her a majority of 50.08%. The Republican incumbent, Adam Kochenderfer conceded.
The next day a 'conputer glitch' was discovered, and deducted 1,200 votes which had been double counted for Democrat Hartman. This made the new margin 1,127 votes in favour of the Republican Kochenderfer giving him a 51.67% share of total votes.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/06/michigan-republican-down-104-votes-wins-by-1127-after-glitch-fixed/
In their case the problem was discovered early and fixed, and the elected position not that significant.
With Trump/Biden, we are talking about the most powerful political position in the world. Surely that is why Trump should be very sure if he concedes?
Antrim County 'Computer Glitch'
Michigan, a battleground state worth 16 electoral has already been called for Biden.
'A glitch in software used to tabulate ballots in Antrim County, Michigan caused at least 6,000 Republican votes to be counted as Democrat, according to Michigan GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox.
The miscalculation, Cox said in a press conference, was first reported by a county clerk.' They had to do a hand count of the ballots in Antrim county.
There are 47 counties in Michigan which may have also suffered from a similar glitch with the same software. That's surely a good reason to question the results in those counties?
At the moment, nobody is seriously suggesting Trump could overturn the Michigan call because he's trailing Biden by 145,000 votes. But what if a 6,000 vote error was found in each of the other 46 Michigan counties using the same software?
That would move 276,000 votes from Biden to Trump, giving the latter a 131,000 vote lead and clear winner of 16 electoral votes.
What if there are 'computer glitches' in other counties in battleground states other than Michigan which have much smaller margins between Biden and Trump?
Trump Campaign's 234 Pages Evidence
What of the 234 pages of sworn affidavits obout irregularities and fraud already submitted to the courts by the Trump campaign? Surely that needs to be checked out before the election results are certified and Trump reacts accordingly? See 234 page PDF file here: https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/7483/3.%20EXHIBIT%201%20(affidavits)%20(compressed).pdf
Some of the claims in the affidavits may be false (at risk of perjury charges and up to 10 years jail). Many may even be frivolous. But from what I've seen, there is plenty of substantiated evidence including:
- Ballots which should have been disqualified were accepted.
- Ballots where signatures were not present or verified or where dates of birth were not credible, or were not entered.
- Republican poll watchers obstructed from being able to observe while hundreds of thousands of votes were counted for Biden.
- Mail-in ballots accepted after the close of voting.
Who knows how many of these claimed will be verified and whether it is sufficient to change the election results as they currently stand?
Surely Trump of all people has the right to delay conceding the election until these matters are sorted out, and if necessary manual re-counts, or new elections are carried out?
After all, for almost his entire presidency, Trump had to endure Democrats using every possible angle to try to overturn his presidency.
Trump's claims of voter fraud or irregularities are a great deal more credible than the Democrat allegation that Trump was a Russian asset. A claim endorsed by Trump opponent Hillary Clinton. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/10/07/new-evidence-bolsters-claim-hillary-clinton-stirred-up-a-trump-russia-scandal-to-distract-from-emails-n1011407
Trump's claims of voter fraud and irregularities deserve more of a hearing than the Democrat's attempt to impeach Trump on allegations he insisted the Ukrainian President investigate Hunter and Joe Biden's connections with Burisma, otherwise he'd withhold military aid. Particularly since Joe Biden had bragged about doing what Trump was falsely accused of, when Biden was Vice President, when he forced Ukraine to sack their Attorney General who was opening an investigation into Burisma - which would have uncovered that he and his son Hunter were acting corruptly. See here for that evidence: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/05/19/leaked-audio-of-joe-bidens-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-call-destroys-msm-narrative-about-shokins-ouster-n407354
The recount dispute in Florida's 2000 presidential election between George W. Bush and Al Gore. [Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000)] , was a decision of the United States Supreme Court handed down on December 12, 2000, 5 weeks after election day. That was a dispute over election procedures in just one state. Trump has multiple state actions, so they will take time to resolve. Until then, Trump should not concede even if that is the likely outcome.
He owes it both to his own supporters, but also to clarify the legitimacy of Biden's election, should that be the result.
Picture: Bush and Gore supportes in December 2000 outside the US Supreme Court.
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There's something that needs to be stated loudly and clearly here, and I (along with Jack Kemp), are just the people to state it. And Jack and I can get pretty loud when we need to. Ready? (Ahem)... there's NO SUCH THING AS A COMPUTER GLITCH! The term makes it sound as if something went wrong inside the computer such as a wheel coming loose. The media either doesn't understand this, or more likely is trying to pull the wool over our eyes, just as they did twenty and more years ago with the so-called "Y2K Bug," which was not a bug by any means, but they didn't understand that, not in the least. It was a feature -- but I won't get into that now.
Hardware glitches don't happen (unless the computer is dying). And software glitches don't happen either, unless the computer is running a poorly-tested program, which means that the incoming data contains a condition (or multiple conditions) that the software was not programmed to handle. More likely, the program contained an instruction such as "after a certain number of votes have been counted, switch all Trump votes to the Biden bucket." Easy to do, Jack and I could both tell you how to do it. Just as likely, the incoming data was tainted -- we've all heard of the acronym GIGO -- garbage in, garbage out.
I rest my case.
Hardware glitches don't happen (unless the computer is dying). And software glitches don't happen either, unless the computer is running a poorly-tested program, which means that the incoming data contains a condition (or multiple conditions) that the software was not programmed to handle. More likely, the program contained an instruction such as "after a certain number of votes have been counted, switch all Trump votes to the Biden bucket." Easy to do, Jack and I could both tell you how to do it. Just as likely, the incoming data was tainted -- we've all heard of the acronym GIGO -- garbage in, garbage out.
I rest my case.
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at November 14, 2020 03:49 PM (xoAW1)
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Amen Dana. This was planned.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at November 16, 2020 08:08 AM (ztiAl)
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