July 26, 2018
Transvestite Boy Denied Communion in Charlotte for Chewing Gum
Jack Kemp
Read the details. Claim kid's chewing gum violated not eating rules before communion.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/religion/article214952345.html
Was she (sic) denied Communion because she'd been chewing gum or because she's transgender? (sic again)
Lilliana Reddâs daughter, who is transgender (sic), was refused Communion during a Sunday Mass this month at St. Vincent de Paul, one of Charlotte's more conservative Catholic churches.
Nobody disputes that it happened.
But Redd and the Catholic Diocese of Charlotte do disagree on why 15-year-old Maxine Arbelo nicknamed Max was turned away by a Eucharistic minister at the parish's Spanish-language Mass on July 15.
Her mother believes it was because Max, who was wearing makeup and a pink top, identifies as a girl. Sheâ's been transitioning since January, taking hormone pills and seeing a psychologist.
Diocese spokesman David Hains said the priest who celebrated the Mass that day told him it was because Max was chewing gum thereby violating a Catholic rule that calls for fasting for at least one hour before receiving Communion."
Read the whole article at Charlotte Observer. Jack continues:
I also found this article online which includes the example of a former transexual who had gender reassignment surgery. Their suicide rate is much higher than the general public's. Almost half of the transsexuals ATTEMPT suicide.
A NOTE FROM TIM, A GOOD CATHOLIC BOY:
When I attended Catholic school in the '70's we were taught you could not chew gum before taking Communion, but it was generally not strongly enforced since you don't swallow gum. Part of the purpose of the "fast" was to present a clean vessel for the Body of Christ. Yes, it was partly to deny yourself a worldly pleasure, but it was also to avoid desecrating the host by putting it in an impure environment. You could drink water or other liquids. Gum chewing was frowned upon and the nuns always said you shouldn't do it before Communion but I don't recall anyone ever being denied it for chewing gum. BUT I suppose the option was there.
In this instance, I suspect the kid was chewing when he arrived at the alter, or at least in the church itself. Otherwise, how would the priest have known?
Being transgendered is grounds for refusal of Communion.
I give you 1 Corinthians 6:9
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"
In September 2015, the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, responsible for enforcing Catholic doctrine refused to allow a transvestite to act as a godfather for a child in Spain. The Congregation issued the following statement:
"[...] the result is evident that this person does not possess the requisite of leading a life conformed to the faith and to the position of godfather (CIC, can 874 §1,3), therefore is not able to be admitted to the position of godmother nor godfather. One should not see this as discrimination, but only the recognition of an objective absence of the requisites that by their nature are necessary to assume the ecclesial responsibility of being a godparent."
End excerpt.
This applies not only to acting as a godparent, but to all aspects of the Catholic Faith. The Church teaches that a homosexual or "transgendered" orientation is itself not a sin, but acting on it is another matter. We are not to treat these people with anything but love and respect, but we also cannot allow them to compound their sins and promote it in others.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states plainly:
"2393 By creating the human being man and woman, God gives personal dignity equally to the one and the other. Each of them, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept his sexual identity."
End excerpt.
And that is based on Genesis 5:2
"He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created."
And Mark 10:6
"But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.'
In other words, sex is something given us from the Almighty, not an accident of biology or a choice. It is our character, our nature.
It's strange; the homosexual lobby claims that their choice of lifestyles is immutable and inborn and yet they make common cause with the "transgender" community which argues that they can pick their sex despite the evidence of biology. There seems to be an inverted concept of what is immutable and what is volitional.
"The Effeminate" are included with idolaters, adulterers, and homosexuals as existing in a state of grievous sin aka Mortal Sin. Communion is supposed to be denied such a person precisely because to take it would be to compound that sin. Taking Communion unworthily is a sin in it's own right.
So the priest who denied this kid Holy Communion was doing the right thing. Frankly, love sometimes requires a firm hand. The parents and others around this confused child do not love him, because they are allowing him to throw away his immortal soul over confusion and modern cultural fashion. Love means telling someone not to walk off a cliff. Our modern world thinks that you should be free to do whatever you want - even if it means spiritual death.
Communion is not a right.
Fay Voshell replies:
Here's the heart of the heresy: "God is not about gender. God is about your heart and what you believe."
For two thousand years Christianity (and for two thousand years before that in Judaism), has believed the biblical account that God created male and female, an account that matches observable reality. What a person believes in contradiction to the fact of the sex one is born with is a delusion.
The current transgender mania is a variant of gnosticism, which believes the mind/spirit transcends material matter, which is considered grossly inferior to the spirit: "You can be whatever you want to be."
The Church gives communion to those who believe in church doctrines, one of which is that male and female sexes are assigned at birth and therefore unchanged by human will. Perverse insistence that one is other than what God made him or her is willful sin against the God who created each of us in his own image. It is also a direct assault on the Christian doctrine of God become man in the flesh, and thus an assault on Christ as well as the Catholic concept of the Eucharist.
Read the details. Claim kid's chewing gum violated not eating rules before communion.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/religion/article214952345.html
Was she (sic) denied Communion because she'd been chewing gum or because she's transgender? (sic again)
Lilliana Reddâs daughter, who is transgender (sic), was refused Communion during a Sunday Mass this month at St. Vincent de Paul, one of Charlotte's more conservative Catholic churches.
Nobody disputes that it happened.
But Redd and the Catholic Diocese of Charlotte do disagree on why 15-year-old Maxine Arbelo nicknamed Max was turned away by a Eucharistic minister at the parish's Spanish-language Mass on July 15.
Her mother believes it was because Max, who was wearing makeup and a pink top, identifies as a girl. Sheâ's been transitioning since January, taking hormone pills and seeing a psychologist.
Diocese spokesman David Hains said the priest who celebrated the Mass that day told him it was because Max was chewing gum thereby violating a Catholic rule that calls for fasting for at least one hour before receiving Communion."
Read the whole article at Charlotte Observer. Jack continues:
I also found this article online which includes the example of a former transexual who had gender reassignment surgery. Their suicide rate is much higher than the general public's. Almost half of the transsexuals ATTEMPT suicide.
A NOTE FROM TIM, A GOOD CATHOLIC BOY:
When I attended Catholic school in the '70's we were taught you could not chew gum before taking Communion, but it was generally not strongly enforced since you don't swallow gum. Part of the purpose of the "fast" was to present a clean vessel for the Body of Christ. Yes, it was partly to deny yourself a worldly pleasure, but it was also to avoid desecrating the host by putting it in an impure environment. You could drink water or other liquids. Gum chewing was frowned upon and the nuns always said you shouldn't do it before Communion but I don't recall anyone ever being denied it for chewing gum. BUT I suppose the option was there.
In this instance, I suspect the kid was chewing when he arrived at the alter, or at least in the church itself. Otherwise, how would the priest have known?
Being transgendered is grounds for refusal of Communion.
I give you 1 Corinthians 6:9
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"
In September 2015, the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, responsible for enforcing Catholic doctrine refused to allow a transvestite to act as a godfather for a child in Spain. The Congregation issued the following statement:
"[...] the result is evident that this person does not possess the requisite of leading a life conformed to the faith and to the position of godfather (CIC, can 874 §1,3), therefore is not able to be admitted to the position of godmother nor godfather. One should not see this as discrimination, but only the recognition of an objective absence of the requisites that by their nature are necessary to assume the ecclesial responsibility of being a godparent."
End excerpt.
This applies not only to acting as a godparent, but to all aspects of the Catholic Faith. The Church teaches that a homosexual or "transgendered" orientation is itself not a sin, but acting on it is another matter. We are not to treat these people with anything but love and respect, but we also cannot allow them to compound their sins and promote it in others.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states plainly:
"2393 By creating the human being man and woman, God gives personal dignity equally to the one and the other. Each of them, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept his sexual identity."
End excerpt.
And that is based on Genesis 5:2
"He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them "Mankind" when they were created."
And Mark 10:6
"But at the beginning of creation God 'made them male and female.'
In other words, sex is something given us from the Almighty, not an accident of biology or a choice. It is our character, our nature.
It's strange; the homosexual lobby claims that their choice of lifestyles is immutable and inborn and yet they make common cause with the "transgender" community which argues that they can pick their sex despite the evidence of biology. There seems to be an inverted concept of what is immutable and what is volitional.
"The Effeminate" are included with idolaters, adulterers, and homosexuals as existing in a state of grievous sin aka Mortal Sin. Communion is supposed to be denied such a person precisely because to take it would be to compound that sin. Taking Communion unworthily is a sin in it's own right.
So the priest who denied this kid Holy Communion was doing the right thing. Frankly, love sometimes requires a firm hand. The parents and others around this confused child do not love him, because they are allowing him to throw away his immortal soul over confusion and modern cultural fashion. Love means telling someone not to walk off a cliff. Our modern world thinks that you should be free to do whatever you want - even if it means spiritual death.
Communion is not a right.
Fay Voshell replies:
Here's the heart of the heresy: "God is not about gender. God is about your heart and what you believe."
For two thousand years Christianity (and for two thousand years before that in Judaism), has believed the biblical account that God created male and female, an account that matches observable reality. What a person believes in contradiction to the fact of the sex one is born with is a delusion.
The current transgender mania is a variant of gnosticism, which believes the mind/spirit transcends material matter, which is considered grossly inferior to the spirit: "You can be whatever you want to be."
The Church gives communion to those who believe in church doctrines, one of which is that male and female sexes are assigned at birth and therefore unchanged by human will. Perverse insistence that one is other than what God made him or her is willful sin against the God who created each of us in his own image. It is also a direct assault on the Christian doctrine of God become man in the flesh, and thus an assault on Christ as well as the Catholic concept of the Eucharist.
I
wrote a bit about this in January of this year. The disastrous idea that man
can remake reality according to his own will.
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Selwyn Duke adds:
One thing, though, Tim: You don't swallow the gum, but you do ingest the sugar in the gum -- and sugar is a food. The problem is that we've been far too lax for a long time.
One thing, though, Tim: You don't swallow the gum, but you do ingest the sugar in the gum -- and sugar is a food. The problem is that we've been far too lax for a long time.
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