March 15, 2022
The Next Ukrainian Famine
This comes to us from Roger Bell from across the Pond:
Message today from a German Farmer friend who farms near Hanover to some farmer friends in UK.
Dear Friends,
Yesterday I saw a Dutch farmer, who runs 4,000 hectares of arable farmland in Germany and 12,000 hectares in Ukraine.
In Ukraine most of his men have left to fight the Russians. He has 100,000 liters of diesel left to do spring cultivation, drilling and fertilizing, but that seems about it for the new crops to grow. For the whole season he needs more than 500,000 liters. He has no fuel for the harvest. He has potatoes in storage halls but no electricity for holding the ventilation and temperature and the potatoes are rotting. He can´t haul his grain to the harbour, because there are no truck drivers and the ship loading facilities are bombed. He expects no money from sales of current stocks and will have no new crops to bring to harvest. His farm is 150 km south of Kiev.
Ukraine grows sunflowers and makes sunflower oil for export mainly to Germany for frying potatoes – French fries. French fries in Germany are fried to 80 percent with oil from Ukraine. People in Germany might not get fries in the coming season.
Another farm in Ukraine has 120,000 hectares and 2,200 labourers. Today only 200 labourers stayed on the farm. The fuel tanks are bombed or confiscated and no spring crop will be grown. Grain stocks can´t be shipped because the ship loading facilities are bombed.
Russian farms can not get parts for their machinery (John Deere and Claas tractors and combines) because of the embargo. They will also not get any chemicals or fertilizer because they are all from EU countries.
From tomorrow on we will host 6 Ukrainians in the house of my deceased parents. On Saturday another Ukrainian mother with her 6 years old son will join our farm.
This situation is absolutely the last, of which I would ever have dreamed of in my life.
After 1945 we had 35 German refugees on our farm from 20 million who came from the east. In 1992 we host a Volga German family from Russia with 5 people for a whole year, when 1 mn of them came to Germany. Today it’s the Ukrainians..
The Ukrainians get work permit from the first day in Germany and full social benefits. It is very costly for the Governement. Putin and his friends want the farmland to make a profit for themselves personally.
Tim adds:
So Putin is trying to achieve eaquality with Stalin, who starved the Ukrainians half to death (well, many all to death.)
Message today from a German Farmer friend who farms near Hanover to some farmer friends in UK.
Dear Friends,
Yesterday I saw a Dutch farmer, who runs 4,000 hectares of arable farmland in Germany and 12,000 hectares in Ukraine.
In Ukraine most of his men have left to fight the Russians. He has 100,000 liters of diesel left to do spring cultivation, drilling and fertilizing, but that seems about it for the new crops to grow. For the whole season he needs more than 500,000 liters. He has no fuel for the harvest. He has potatoes in storage halls but no electricity for holding the ventilation and temperature and the potatoes are rotting. He can´t haul his grain to the harbour, because there are no truck drivers and the ship loading facilities are bombed. He expects no money from sales of current stocks and will have no new crops to bring to harvest. His farm is 150 km south of Kiev.
Ukraine grows sunflowers and makes sunflower oil for export mainly to Germany for frying potatoes – French fries. French fries in Germany are fried to 80 percent with oil from Ukraine. People in Germany might not get fries in the coming season.
Another farm in Ukraine has 120,000 hectares and 2,200 labourers. Today only 200 labourers stayed on the farm. The fuel tanks are bombed or confiscated and no spring crop will be grown. Grain stocks can´t be shipped because the ship loading facilities are bombed.
Russian farms can not get parts for their machinery (John Deere and Claas tractors and combines) because of the embargo. They will also not get any chemicals or fertilizer because they are all from EU countries.
From tomorrow on we will host 6 Ukrainians in the house of my deceased parents. On Saturday another Ukrainian mother with her 6 years old son will join our farm.
This situation is absolutely the last, of which I would ever have dreamed of in my life.
After 1945 we had 35 German refugees on our farm from 20 million who came from the east. In 1992 we host a Volga German family from Russia with 5 people for a whole year, when 1 mn of them came to Germany. Today it’s the Ukrainians..
The Ukrainians get work permit from the first day in Germany and full social benefits. It is very costly for the Governement. Putin and his friends want the farmland to make a profit for themselves personally.
Tim adds:
So Putin is trying to achieve eaquality with Stalin, who starved the Ukrainians half to death (well, many all to death.)
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at
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First lets establish the real numbers. A hectare is about 2.5 acres. Now we can see the real holdings of these land barons. The Dutch farmer(?) is running about 30000 acres in Ukraine. The unnamed farmer(Soros)(?) better then a quarter of a million acres. Wonder who was killed to secure that much land.
Once again Tim all Ukraine has to do is surrender. If after that he tries to starve them then you have a case.
Once again Tim all Ukraine has to do is surrender. If after that he tries to starve them then you have a case.
Posted by: Mike at March 15, 2022 06:30 PM (izSU4)
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I greatly hope it does not come to a Ukrainian surrender! They are a sovereign country -- so far -- and do not deserve Putin's attacks.
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at March 15, 2022 09:26 PM (FSK6u)
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Mike, you can't expect them to surrender; would we if we were invaded?
A big part of this war was this farmland in the first place.
A big part of this war was this farmland in the first place.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at March 16, 2022 08:00 AM (vEoY4)
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As the war is now heading into the suburbs and cities where you know the Ukrainians have an advantage and to route them will take a Berlin type bombing raid and the innocent people in Ukraine who just want to live their lives are paying the price.
Also the West is only going to give Ukraine enough weapons so the Ukrainians can keep poking the bear.
The Ukrainians, the people, not the talking heads would be much better off if they surrendered and let Putin take the East and South and then there still might be a Ukraine. If not the war continues and needless life is lost.
Also the West is only going to give Ukraine enough weapons so the Ukrainians can keep poking the bear.
The Ukrainians, the people, not the talking heads would be much better off if they surrendered and let Putin take the East and South and then there still might be a Ukraine. If not the war continues and needless life is lost.
Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2022 06:27 PM (LobSF)
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I rather doubt Putin will be satisfied at that point. Putin wants it all.
I agree; the West will only give enough weapons to keep the war going. There is a plan behind all this. Not inconsequentially, Biden needs to keep this distraction going while he implements the radical policies his insane handlers want. And this is intended to be used to drive the West even further into the insanity of green tech, I suspect. Also, they want to begin consolidating the world empire they so dream about, and getting rid of Russia over time is one of the keys. Russia was useful and still is, but not much longer.
I would point out that time really isn't on Putin's side. He is spending vast sums of money on this war. He cannot afford to do it without Chinese help.
So the fight going into the 'burbs may be a good thing from the Ukrainian perspective Mike. Putin can't fight another Afghanistan.
Granted, Ukraine isn't Afghanistan, but it will still suck up all of Russias resources.
We don't really want to topple Russia, nor Putin. Russia is not our friend, but she isn't our bitterest enemy as in the old Soviet days and it acts as a counterbabalance to
the Chinese, who are far more dangerous and a worse enemy. And Putin is a murdering bastard but he's not as bad as some and we will no doubt be sorry to see him go; he'll be replaced by a true bad guy. He has to be contained, not eliminated.
Trump was handling Russia right. He gave them reasonable respect while making it clear what he would tolerate.
That said, I still don't cotton to the idea of Ukraine just surrendering. They are a sovereign nation. And we promised to protect them. And if Russia takes them they gain a massive strategic advantage in the eastern part of Europe.
I agree; the West will only give enough weapons to keep the war going. There is a plan behind all this. Not inconsequentially, Biden needs to keep this distraction going while he implements the radical policies his insane handlers want. And this is intended to be used to drive the West even further into the insanity of green tech, I suspect. Also, they want to begin consolidating the world empire they so dream about, and getting rid of Russia over time is one of the keys. Russia was useful and still is, but not much longer.
I would point out that time really isn't on Putin's side. He is spending vast sums of money on this war. He cannot afford to do it without Chinese help.
So the fight going into the 'burbs may be a good thing from the Ukrainian perspective Mike. Putin can't fight another Afghanistan.
Granted, Ukraine isn't Afghanistan, but it will still suck up all of Russias resources.
We don't really want to topple Russia, nor Putin. Russia is not our friend, but she isn't our bitterest enemy as in the old Soviet days and it acts as a counterbabalance to
the Chinese, who are far more dangerous and a worse enemy. And Putin is a murdering bastard but he's not as bad as some and we will no doubt be sorry to see him go; he'll be replaced by a true bad guy. He has to be contained, not eliminated.
Trump was handling Russia right. He gave them reasonable respect while making it clear what he would tolerate.
That said, I still don't cotton to the idea of Ukraine just surrendering. They are a sovereign nation. And we promised to protect them. And if Russia takes them they gain a massive strategic advantage in the eastern part of Europe.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at March 17, 2022 08:04 AM (P6qIf)
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All good points Tim except our promise to protect them. Looking at some of the lefts legislation against Ukraine prior to the war tells a different story. You asked for links that I dont have because some of my research has taken me to sites that I thought I would never in my life give a click too and I feel dirty from my visits but you go where the story takes you.
I saw a hit piece on Lara Logan just the other day on Weasel Zippers, who I believe is going down the same rabbit hole little Green Footballs went,that took me to media matters. She hit on the Azov battalion and soros connections but didnt take it all the way with the medias complicity in this. They called her crazy for pointing out the truth.
That the west would love to see Russia bogged down in another Afghan style war would give them tingles. The problem is that the Ukrainians will suffer the same fate as the Afghans. There are people out there that are worse then Putin.
That the west would love to see Russia bogged down in another Afghan style war would give them tingles. The problem is that the Ukrainians will suffer the same fate as the Afghans. There are people out there that are worse then Putin.
Posted by: Mike at March 17, 2022 10:05 AM (Mfzvk)
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I would agree, especially with that last statement. But we DID promise the Ukraine our protection, in a series of meetings that were part of the START treaty, so in essence we were bound by it.
We should have just let them keep their nukes.
We should have just let them keep their nukes.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at March 18, 2022 09:03 AM (uUMhU)
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That the west would love to see Russia bogged down in another Afghan style war would give them tingles. The problem is that the Ukrainians will suffer the same fate as the Afghans. There are people out there that are worse then Putin.
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