1  I am convinced Putins main goal is to control/own Ukraine's coast line and more importantly the ports  and free access to them. This is more about moving gas and oil in an economic way. 2 things I became aware of. One is Russias pipelines are old and need replacing. The 2nd is what Putin is paying to move that gas and oil thru other countries has got to run in the 10s of billions if not more. Russia although has lots of beach front property the problem is most of the time its frozen.(Putin prays for global warming you know.)Black sea here Putin comes. Route all the new pipelines to the coast load it on boats and away it goes. Cheaper and a larger return .   I also believe the Russian army we are seeing commanders are purposely trying to keep Ukraine civilian casualties low.Thats why you only saw probs into the major cities everywhere except the coastal cities. Doesnt look good in the papers at all civilian casualties especially knowing your enemy will inflate them. 6000 Ukrainians were killed fighting the Russian insurgents mainly in the 2 contested states. This figure is in the time beginning after Crimea until invasion.Considering this is a full scale invasion the numbers dont add up to me. Especially considering how the media some deranged lunatic.
  BTW that neo-nazi Ukrainian rant Putin gave would have garnered a standing ovation in the Democrat controlled house before the invasion. Just like the Trump-Russian collusion hoax the democrats are convined the Ukrainian Azov battalion is made up entirely of American Right wing Extremists.
 The only question now is will Putin leave Ukraine at all or will it be a landlocked shell of a country.
 

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6 Very astute observation Mike. I agree; it's always been about moving oil and gas.

The Ukrainians were threatening to shut down the pipeline over a dispute with Gazprom. Putin decided to set them straight. That's the genesis of this war.

There are several Russian pipleines through Ukraine now. Nordstream 1 goes through the country. Putin needed to remedy that.

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8 The only question now is will Putin leave Ukraine at all or will it be a landlocked shell of a country.

9 Glenn Greenwald is a reasonable liberal, a rare commodity today. He argues the rush to war is a terrible thing - something I concur with, although I think we need to take steps to drive Russia out of Ukraine because of our treaty obligations to them.

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