October 03, 2025
More stupidity from our Barack Obama Pontiff.
Pope Leo's comments on 'inhuman treatment of immigrants' in U.S. offend some conservatives
What, disapproving of abortion isn't pro-life? Opposing euthanasia isn't pro-life? Wanting people to labor for themselves and make their own lives in dignity isn't pro-life? (The Bible says, not Donald Trump, that he who will not work shall not eat.)
What is the "inhamane treatment" that makes Trump not pro-life?
FTA:
Leo said he wasn't familiar with the specific initiative, but that the "overall work" of the senator could be considered as it "related to the teachings of the Church."
"Someone who says I'm against abortion but is in favour of the death penalty is not really pro-life," Leo told reporters on Tuesday. "Someone who says I'm against abortion but I'm in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States, I don't know if that's pro-life.
Sooo...the Catholic Church, which condemns abortion as an act of murder, wants to honor one of the principle backers of murder and Leo is o.k. with that.
This is rather like the Bishop of, say, Berlin wanting to honor Joseph Mengele. Oh, he was pro-life because his research was going to help sick people!
Leo's statement is an enormous non-sequiter; the topics he jumbled together here are completely different and the argument can and must be made that they are in no way similar. The death penalty is quite Biblical.
Take for example:
10 " ‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.
Leviticus 20:8
13 " ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Exodus 21:12
12 "Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death.
Exodus 21:16
16 "Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession.
Exodus 22:19
19 "Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal is to be put to death.
Exodus 21:17
17 "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.
Genesis 9:6
6 "Whoever sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made mankind.
Romans 13:1-7
4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
Matthew 5:17
17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Leviticus 21:9
9 " ‘If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire.
I could go on but you get the point.
Scripture says the King aka government has "the power of the sword" to "punish evildoers". There is no debate about it; God Himself commands we occasionally use the power of execution. It's His job to sort it all out at that point.
So how does support for the death penalty equate to being not pro-life? God Himself commanded the death penalty; the Israelites didn't just make it up themselves.
And of course Pope Francis, er, Leo knows full well that there has been no formal condemnation of capital punishment by the Church and the matter is still open for debate. Read this for the Catholic arguments for capital punishment. The Magisterium has not formally condemned it, nor has any of Leo's predecessors. Yes, some former Popes have rejected it, but that is their personal opinion and in no way binds Catholics.
Meanwhile all Popes have rejected abortion. Pope Benedict XIV gave it the Church's highest condemnation in In his encyclical Deus Caritas Est (2005)
And I ask you who is pro-life? Is it pro-life to let killers wander loose to kill again? Was it pro-life to let that guy loose who killed that Ukrainian girl on the subway? When evaluating life one must weigh ultimate harm against innocents verses the compromised "right to life" that the criminal enjoys. And there are some crimes that are for God to decide; we can only act pragmatically.
Would Leo have supported letting Hitler off? Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? If not why not?
In fact both justice and human dignity require the death penalty on occasion. Otherwise we are spitting in God's face, saying we know better than does He.
As for his ridiculous comparison between controlling our borders and abortion, I give you this passage from the Bible:
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber."
Now Jesus was speaking about the Kingdom of Heaven and He Himself was the door, but Bible passages often have more than one meaning and I think this statement illustrates perfectly the moral problem with illegal immigration; it is a climbing in another way. Jesus was quite clear in calling such people "thief and robber". Illegal immigrants are thieves and robbers and that is a fact. The come to steal jobs, steal social services, steal taxpayer money in other ways, and especially in these latter days have done so with no intention of actually becoming Americans but rather in milking America for what they can get. Much of the Mexican economy, for instance, is predicated on remittances from their citizens from the U.S.
Why bother reforming your economy when you can just steal from your neighbor? You can play with socialism and the other stupidity and never pay the price.
The Bible has always made it plain that nations are supposed to exist, going back to God's breaking up the empire of Nimrod and his babbling tower. Israel was supposed to subsume the nations of Canaan, but only if they accepted Judaism. They were supposed to be tolerant of foreigners (because it was their job to spread worship of God) but they were never commanded to change their laws and ways for them. That is what the illegal immigration has done to America (and does to most nations if too many immigrants come.) Israel was condemned by God for allowing aliens to influence their culture to the point He twice uprooted the whole lott of them. Much of the apostacy suffered by Israel in those days was because they were taking in too many aliens as they conquered parts of the Holy Land.
And how is asking these people to just go home inhuman treatment? Did we do what other nations do to such peoples? Mexico's laws are far stricter than our own and these folks would have been evicted in short order if they hadn't been migrating to the U.S. (which Mexico wanted them to do as part of the "reconquista".) These people were fed, given new clothes, decent housing (shoot; in New York City and in California they were living in luxury hotels where native born Americans couldn't afford to visit), were treated with respect.
So ICE has started rounding up criminal illegals, people who have done bad things back home and here in the States, and Leo gets his cassock in a bunch.
Governments are supposed to protect the innocents from crime. It's one of their primary reasons for existing. Letting people suffer from the vile acts of evildoers is what is inhumane.
We have treated the illegals as humanely as any people in history ever did. I dare him to visit an ICE detention camp and prove me wrong! But like all liberals he just spouts easy words that support his worldview without any actual facts to back it up.
(BTW Leo is allegedly a devotee of St. Augustine and claims to be heavily influenced by him. I've read Augustine in no small measure and can attest to the fact Auggie is diametrically opposed to much of this Progressive stupidity espoused by Leo and his bestie Francis. Just one example is Augustine's theory of just war, which is applicable to U.S. immigration policy today.)
Leo said:
Well, these immigrants bsed THEIR decisions on economics in the first place so naturally it's an issue. They are here to clean up where they lacked the opportunity back home. But what happens when a large swath of a country leaves? How is anything fixed there? That is just passing the problem along to us, outsourcing it. In fact it is a gentle invasion of America, one designed to ease problems in the Third World but to overwhelm the American system. Read the work of Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven if you want to understand this left-wing policy and how it applies to immigration. They taught radicals to overwhelm the system to destroy it and usher in the era of socialism and Godlessness. Leo seems not to understand any of this.
"Human dignity" is a fungible term that can mean anything. It can be argued that a man wearing a little girl's dress and holding a lollipop must be treated the same way we would treat anyone else because of "human dignity" even though that person, through mental illness or whatever, has rejected human dignity themselves. But economics are hard facts and they cannot be ignored. I would argue we have treated illegal aliens with enormous amounts of human dignity. Other countries would have thrown them in horrible prisons until they could be kicked out.
The article continues:
"[Leo] encourages and challenges each local Church and each Christian, faced with complex and urgent issues, to live the Gospel," Czerny told Reuters.
There is nothing "complex" about the issue of illegal immigration; we have people openly breaking our laws and that for their own economic benefit. We take in more immigrants than any nation in history since perhaps the Barbarian Invasions of Rome (and they came in peacefully, not militarily in most cases.) We are being overrun; there are at least 20 million illegals in this country and probably more. We have sixty million aliens here - legal and illegal - and that is comfortably more than the population of Canada and over double that of Australia. We have a duty to our own citizens to stop the flood of aliens into this country - legal and illegal. Our nation cannot survive this deluge and even a dimwit should be able to see that. America has done great good in the world and deserves to survive; doing what you believe is a kind thing at the expense of your own life is not required of Christians. It especially isn't required for the wrong cause.
We have no divine order to commit national suicide.
So this Pope buys a few attaboys from the liberal press at great cost to his home country and to the world at large. Remember your Dante' your Eminence; Antenora is the place for traitors to kin and country.
Oh, and Leo isn't "preching the word" but rather his own opinion and the opinoin of his friends and benefactors. He would have kept his mouth shut on this subject if he were.
The article continues:
"He understands the priority of the abortion issue, but he's not going to be somebody that says that's far more important than immigration," she said.
Bullshit. Pope Benedict issued the highest injunction against abortion, which is the conscious, willful murder of an innocent. In his papal bull he said it had the Church's highest condemnation, making it fall just barely short of a ruling ex-cathedra (infallible). Immigration is not a settled matter in the Church nor is it anywhere near as clear. Many aliens are criminals and we have been forced to round up such before they kill people (as so many have now done).
(The last ex-cathedra ruling by a Pope was in 1959 when the Church ruled Mary was bodily assumed into Heaven.)
Leo has simply made a fool of himself here. He shows he is more interested in friendship with the world then in actually fighting for justice. There is no justice in promoting an invasion of a country out of some misplaced idea of the poor. If we want to help the poor we first stop enabling their governments. Caring for the poor does not mean forcing people to wander the Earth for money, and sending their children with molesters to be sold in the skin trade or work as slaves.
Leo won't care about any of this; his is an easy, virtue signaling Christianity, just like Pope Francis. These are very serious times that call for a serious Pontiff. Instead we have Pauley Shore.
God is punishing Mankind by allowing these two lousy Popes to impose their errors. We need to ask God to forgive us and pray for Leo, that he may be granted wisdom by the Lord.
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