March 05, 2022
It's All About the Coast
Mike
I am convinced Putins main goal is to control/own Ukraine's coast line and more importantly the ports and free access to them. This is more about moving gas and oil in an economic way. 2 things I became aware of. One is Russias pipelines are old and need replacing. The 2nd is what Putin is paying to move that gas and oil thru other countries has got to run in the 10s of billions if not more. Russia although has lots of beach front property the problem is most of the time its frozen.(Putin prays for global warming you know.)Black sea here Putin comes. Route all the new pipelines to the coast load it on boats and away it goes. Cheaper and a larger return . I also believe the Russian army we are seeing commanders are purposely trying to keep Ukraine civilian casualties low.Thats why you only saw probs into the major cities everywhere except the coastal cities. Doesnt look good in the papers at all civilian casualties especially knowing your enemy will inflate them. 6000 Ukrainians were killed fighting the Russian insurgents mainly in the 2 contested states. This figure is in the time beginning after Crimea until invasion.Considering this is a full scale invasion the numbers dont add up to me. Especially considering how the media some deranged lunatic.
BTW that neo-nazi Ukrainian rant Putin gave would have garnered a standing ovation in the Democrat controlled house before the invasion. Just like the Trump-Russian collusion hoax the democrats are convined the Ukrainian Azov battalion is made up entirely of American Right wing Extremists.
The only question now is will Putin leave Ukraine at all or will it be a landlocked shell of a country.
Tim adds:
Very astute observation Mike. I agree; it's always been about moving oil and gas.
The Ukrainians were threatening to shut down the pipeline over a dispute with Gazprom. Putin decided to set them straight. That's the genesis of this war.
There are several Russian pipleines through Ukraine now. Nordstream 1 goes through the country. Putin needed to remedy that.
I am convinced Putins main goal is to control/own Ukraine's coast line and more importantly the ports and free access to them. This is more about moving gas and oil in an economic way. 2 things I became aware of. One is Russias pipelines are old and need replacing. The 2nd is what Putin is paying to move that gas and oil thru other countries has got to run in the 10s of billions if not more. Russia although has lots of beach front property the problem is most of the time its frozen.(Putin prays for global warming you know.)Black sea here Putin comes. Route all the new pipelines to the coast load it on boats and away it goes. Cheaper and a larger return . I also believe the Russian army we are seeing commanders are purposely trying to keep Ukraine civilian casualties low.Thats why you only saw probs into the major cities everywhere except the coastal cities. Doesnt look good in the papers at all civilian casualties especially knowing your enemy will inflate them. 6000 Ukrainians were killed fighting the Russian insurgents mainly in the 2 contested states. This figure is in the time beginning after Crimea until invasion.Considering this is a full scale invasion the numbers dont add up to me. Especially considering how the media some deranged lunatic.
BTW that neo-nazi Ukrainian rant Putin gave would have garnered a standing ovation in the Democrat controlled house before the invasion. Just like the Trump-Russian collusion hoax the democrats are convined the Ukrainian Azov battalion is made up entirely of American Right wing Extremists.
The only question now is will Putin leave Ukraine at all or will it be a landlocked shell of a country.
Tim adds:
Very astute observation Mike. I agree; it's always been about moving oil and gas.
The Ukrainians were threatening to shut down the pipeline over a dispute with Gazprom. Putin decided to set them straight. That's the genesis of this war.
There are several Russian pipleines through Ukraine now. Nordstream 1 goes through the country. Putin needed to remedy that.
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You need to watch Oliver Stones documentary called Revealing Ukraine. Came out July 2019 including interview with Putin. I suspected the democrat involvement in Ukraine's internal affairs and the documentary confirmed it 100 fold. I really fell for the Ukrainians who are just pawns. Obama, Clinton,Biden and Soros must be cheering the Russians on hoping to destroy the evidence.
Posted by: Mike at March 06, 2022 12:10 AM (hgMvn)
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at March 06, 2022 10:13 AM (iBt4g)
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How ironic would it be if they ended up in Russia.
Posted by: mywatchesuk at August 31, 2023 08:07 PM (MCuaA)
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