July 25, 2019
Icelandic Glacial Melt
Timothy Birdnow
I recently left a comment on Facebook in which I asserted glacial loss in Iceland was due to an increase in volcanic activity. A commenter demanded evidence of that assertion, and asked why glaciers in other places were melting. I left the following reply:
Yes, Mr. Anderson, we had Eyjafjallajökull erupt in 2101, and Bárðarbunga 2014–2015, for starters. The latter is listed as Iceland's largest eruption series in 230 years, Hudson, T. S.; White, R. S.; Greenfield, T.; Ãgústsdóttir, T.; Brisbourne, A.; Green, R. G. (2017-09-16). "Deep crustal melt plumbing of Bárðarbunga volcano, Iceland". Geophysical Research Letters. 44 (17): 2017GL074749. doi:10.1002/2017gl074749. ISSN 1944-8007. the Icelandic Met Office is predicting an eruption of Bardarbunga based on a series of major earthquakes, which shows the volcanoe is coming awake. See http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/18/iceland-volcano-idINKBN0GI1BW20140818 You had Gjalp in '96, and and Grimsvoltn in 2011. And don't forget Eyjafjallajökull. Grimsvotn was the most powerful eruption Iceland had seen since 1918. Here's a popular article about the eruptions of late. https://www.iflscience.com/environment/icelands-next-volcanic-eruption-about-happen-0/
According to Volcano and earthquake activity in Iceland https://www.jonfr.com/volcano/
And there has been considerable upticks in earthquake activity around all of the Icelandic volcanoes in recent years.
Yes, Icelandic Volcanism is increasing - and with it glacial melt.
BTW, there is a ring of fire under West Antarctica as well. Ditto Greenland. Volcanoes are tied to planetary wobble and Milankovich cycles.
Antarctica is a particularly poor example of "global warming" causing ice melt. The average temperature of West Antarctica is minus 10 degrees C or on the coast to minus 60 in the interior. Do you really believe a warming atmosphere is responsible for ice loss there? But WAIS has been melting anyway. Why? Because of underground volcanism. It's not even sensible to blame warm oceans going under the ice sheet because warm water has to pass the Antarctic Convergence, a deep, wide current of very cold water. The East Antarctic Ice Sheet actually gained mass. http://www.geologyin.com/2015/10/mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet.html See also https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses/
BW, while some glaciers are melting some are growing. Take the Lahaul Spiti Glacier as a prime example of growth. Here is a paper by School of Environmental Sciences, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi l 10067, India. http://lahaulspititravel.com/balanced-conditions-or-slight-mass-gain-of-glaciers-in-the-lahaul-spiti/
Im fact There is considerable evidemce that glaciers are growing worldwide https://principia-scientific.org/climate-shock-90-percent-worlds-glaciers-growing/ How can you explain that given the mechanism you believe is responsible for glacial melt? If it's caused by a warming of the atmosphere thos should largely be impossible.
You are the one asserting a new scientific principle. The burden of proof is on you here..
Oh, and the Earth has not warmed in a staitstically significant fashion since the late nineties. https://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/04/no-global-warming-at-all-for-18-years-9-months-a-new-record-the-pause-lengthens-again-just-in-time-for-un-summit-in-paris/
One last thing; much of the planetary warming is a result of manipulation of past and present temperature data by NOAA and NASA. See here. https://realclimatescience.com/2016/12/100-of-us-warming-is-due-to-noaa-data-tampering/
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Sorry about not inserting hyperlinks; the original comment didn't do it, and, frankly, it's too much a bother here. One point; I have to look these up every time I argue with a True Believer, and these sites are becoming increasingly difficult to find as Google and the other search engines scrub them from the web. Ones I used in the past now do not show up on a search. It is horribly frustrating, because the truth is being expunged by these big tech companies. You can't really blame the Alarmist, either, in many ways since they aren't being given both sides of the argument.
I recently left a comment on Facebook in which I asserted glacial loss in Iceland was due to an increase in volcanic activity. A commenter demanded evidence of that assertion, and asked why glaciers in other places were melting. I left the following reply:
Yes, Mr. Anderson, we had Eyjafjallajökull erupt in 2101, and Bárðarbunga 2014–2015, for starters. The latter is listed as Iceland's largest eruption series in 230 years, Hudson, T. S.; White, R. S.; Greenfield, T.; Ãgústsdóttir, T.; Brisbourne, A.; Green, R. G. (2017-09-16). "Deep crustal melt plumbing of Bárðarbunga volcano, Iceland". Geophysical Research Letters. 44 (17): 2017GL074749. doi:10.1002/2017gl074749. ISSN 1944-8007. the Icelandic Met Office is predicting an eruption of Bardarbunga based on a series of major earthquakes, which shows the volcanoe is coming awake. See http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/18/iceland-volcano-idINKBN0GI1BW20140818 You had Gjalp in '96, and and Grimsvoltn in 2011. And don't forget Eyjafjallajökull. Grimsvotn was the most powerful eruption Iceland had seen since 1918. Here's a popular article about the eruptions of late. https://www.iflscience.com/environment/icelands-next-volcanic-eruption-about-happen-0/
According to Volcano and earthquake activity in Iceland https://www.jonfr.com/volcano/
"According to latest news from Rúv on recent survey on Bárðarbunga volcano the cauldrons that appeared during the Holuhraun eruption (2014 – 2015) continue to grow in size and there has been increase in hydrothermal output in those cauldrons. Distance between the cauldrons is 800 meters and their depth is more than 100 meters. In one of the cauldrons a hot spring has been observed and strong sulphur comes from it. The water in the cauldrons no longer freezes due to heat. Rock has also been exposed that have never been seen before and have been under the glacier for thousands of years." End quote.
And there has been considerable upticks in earthquake activity around all of the Icelandic volcanoes in recent years.
Yes, Icelandic Volcanism is increasing - and with it glacial melt.
BTW, there is a ring of fire under West Antarctica as well. Ditto Greenland. Volcanoes are tied to planetary wobble and Milankovich cycles.
Antarctica is a particularly poor example of "global warming" causing ice melt. The average temperature of West Antarctica is minus 10 degrees C or on the coast to minus 60 in the interior. Do you really believe a warming atmosphere is responsible for ice loss there? But WAIS has been melting anyway. Why? Because of underground volcanism. It's not even sensible to blame warm oceans going under the ice sheet because warm water has to pass the Antarctic Convergence, a deep, wide current of very cold water. The East Antarctic Ice Sheet actually gained mass. http://www.geologyin.com/2015/10/mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet.html See also https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses/
BW, while some glaciers are melting some are growing. Take the Lahaul Spiti Glacier as a prime example of growth. Here is a paper by School of Environmental Sciences, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi l 10067, India. http://lahaulspititravel.com/balanced-conditions-or-slight-mass-gain-of-glaciers-in-the-lahaul-spiti/
Im fact There is considerable evidemce that glaciers are growing worldwide https://principia-scientific.org/climate-shock-90-percent-worlds-glaciers-growing/ How can you explain that given the mechanism you believe is responsible for glacial melt? If it's caused by a warming of the atmosphere thos should largely be impossible.
You are the one asserting a new scientific principle. The burden of proof is on you here..
Oh, and the Earth has not warmed in a staitstically significant fashion since the late nineties. https://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/04/no-global-warming-at-all-for-18-years-9-months-a-new-record-the-pause-lengthens-again-just-in-time-for-un-summit-in-paris/
One last thing; much of the planetary warming is a result of manipulation of past and present temperature data by NOAA and NASA. See here. https://realclimatescience.com/2016/12/100-of-us-warming-is-due-to-noaa-data-tampering/
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Sorry about not inserting hyperlinks; the original comment didn't do it, and, frankly, it's too much a bother here. One point; I have to look these up every time I argue with a True Believer, and these sites are becoming increasingly difficult to find as Google and the other search engines scrub them from the web. Ones I used in the past now do not show up on a search. It is horribly frustrating, because the truth is being expunged by these big tech companies. You can't really blame the Alarmist, either, in many ways since they aren't being given both sides of the argument.
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