You know, it was just a few months ago that the media and the Democrats were bitterly complaining the DOW was giving lobster dinners to servicemen and that they were being treated too well. Now they've turned 180*.
So which is it? Is Hegseth coddling the military, are they living off the fat of the land, or are they suffering deprivation and misery?
Newsflash - conditions on air craft carriers are NEVER a Club Med vacation cruise. They aren't air-conditioned, for instance. Their water is often somewhat brackish and it is hot. My brother was a PACE instructor, teaching college courses to sailors on several of them and his ship was deployed to the Middle East (he has a plaque thanking him for his service during Gulf war I) and he hated it. It was boiling hot all the time and even if you got a shower the water was warm and did not cool you. That is just the life of a sailor.
It's not supposed to be a luxury cruise; we are trying to make these guys tough. Fighting men need to be tough.
Now, when the DOW gave lobsters to military guys it was usually a treat for those going into some very hard conditions and it's always been done. But that was supposedly a bad thing.
Make up your minds media.
I would imagine our friend Bill will have a few thoughts on this as he was a submariner.
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Since you asked. Ships leave port with supplies aboard which are not sufficient to last for the entire mission, counting on being resupplied in two ways; by underweigh replenishment from seagoing supply ships, and by in-port calls in foreign ports.
The former is usually pretty adequate for smaller ships such as destroyers and the like, but cannot even come close to keeping a carrier’s large crew adequately supplied.
Carriers absolutely have to make port calls to remain fully supplied. Nothing is being said about the destruction of US bases in the Mideast during the present war with Iran, but I have read from many sources that it has been severe. Confirming that is reports that air resources have been moved from Gulf bases to more remote bases and are therefor needing to employ more aerial refeuling in their attacks on Iran.
Given that carriers are being denied in-port resupply and are subsisting only on underweigh replenishment, they are almost certainly suffering from severe shortages of supplies to maintain manpower wellbeing.
Posted by: Bill H at August 14, 2026 09:33 AM (FRG6e)
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Thank you Bill! All very great points and ones I would never have thought of (I have no experience with the Navy). What you say makes perfect sense.
Food probably is getting a bit unpalateable. That used to be common in the old sailing days - sailors relied on jerked meat and hardtack and it was not uncommon for food and water both to be full of bugs. But since we have bases nearby all over the world now resupply is much easier - except in the middle of a war, it seems.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at August 14, 2026 10:29 AM (oflqW)
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Oh wah wah. The poor babies dont have whipped cream for their lattes or sprinkles on their cup cakes. Suck it up because you signed up for it. Are these stories about deprivation actually truth driven or agenda driven. 99% of the time agenda because they want Trump to fail and if the sailors ran out of mint for their juleps report it as a catastrophe. With China assisting the IRGC targeting a logical person would move assets. Dont do a MacArthur and leave your bombers parked with Japanese bombers on their way. As I type its being reported that the rotation of the carriers is taking place. End of story about the poor deprived sailors.
Posted by: Mike at August 14, 2026 12:08 PM (X6xim)
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Nothing said about destruction of Mideast bases, and just today NY Times has an article about ship resupply suffering from destruction of resupply bases in the Mideast. Nice to have my speculative deduction confirmed.
Posted by: Bill H at August 14, 2026 11:25 PM (FRG6e)
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If the New York slimes is verification for you Im sure they also can confirm that Jill Biden is a real doctor.
Posted by: Mike at August 14, 2026 11:53 PM (X6xim)
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