October 08, 2023

Disconnect

Timothy Birdnow

So, the moonbats at MSNBC think Israel is to blame for the unprovoked attacks on her citizens.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/10/07/msnbc-israel-caused-attacks-on-it-and-made-people-vote-for-hamas/

During MSNBC’s coverage of the Hamas attack on Israel on Saturday, MSNBC host Ayman Mohyeldin argued that the attacks on Israel are due to "people who have been living in Gaza,” being "blockaded, besieged, decimated economically and politically” and host Ali Velshi stated that Israel’s behavior is "why they voted for Hamas in the first place.”

Mohyeldin stated that "if you do not have some kind of mechanism that delivers justice for Palestinians, you are never going to have peace in the region. That’s what this is about. And I wrap up with a central point about, when we look back at the Oslo Accords, this was supposed to be the beginning of a two-state solution. The fundamental equation of Oslo was land for peace. And anyone who saw that unfold at the time, and looks at it now, tells you that, fundamentally, that is flawed. The Palestinians were not seeking land. Israel was seeking peace, but the Palestinians were seeking freedom. The very nature of the equation by which we have been looking at this conflict, the narrative of which we have been trying to understand what is happening has not been accurate. So, we are not able to accurately solve the problem, because we don’t actually understand what the reality is on the ground. Most Americans do not understand what does it mean to be living under occupation? What does it mean for 70 years to be dispossessed of your land, to be dispossessed of your self-determination? What does that ultimately mean for the people who are willing to go out and carry [out] these attacks? Why would anyone, why would anyone –.”

Velshi then cut in to say, "Why would you make a war with Israel, which you know has military might that’s ten times yours, or 100 times yours?”

Mohyeldin responded, "Exactly. Why are you going to war with a nuclear-armed country? …

here was this equation of deterrence that Israel wanted to impose on all of its neighbors. And it can, because when you are fighting conventional wars, countries will be afraid of nuclear weapons. But the people who have been living in Gaza, blockaded, besieged, decimated economically and politically, have nothing to lose. So, ultimately, when they’re making these kinds of calculations –.”

Velshi cut in to state, "That’s why they voted for Hamas in the first place.”

Mohyeldin cut in himself to say, "They have described them as nihilistic movements, and ultimately, when you see what you’re doing today and the consequences that Palestinians in Gaza are going to pay the price for, you have to wonder. Just, final point…the humanity of how we describe the victims on both sides is not equal. And we see that from our coverage today, and we understand it, rightfully so. But as others have been pointing out, where was the systemic coverage of all of the victims over the past several years, on both sides? Certainly the Palestinian side of it. That humanity is missing in the coverage.”

Blaming the victim aside (and that's a huge thing to set aside) one has to wonder at the total lack of self-awareness by these leftists. Every thing they say about the Palestinians and their desperation because they supposedly have been abused could be applied to Donald Trump and the MAGA people. The only difference is the Palestinians are actually guilty of murdering innocents.

Where, pray tell, is the "mechanism that delivers justice" for the American People? Mohyeldin is happy to deny that to the MAGA people who just want their country back, as MSNBC seems to believe is true of the Palestinians.

We in middle America are seeking freedom too. Why is that a good cause for the Palestinians but not those of us in the heartland who are having our country taken from us by a bunch of marxists?

(The reality is, of course, that "Palestine" was NOT seeking their freedom; it was offered. They want to drive Israel into the sea and want to take what the Jews have built. It is not analagous to what we are doing in America, where those who built this country want to keep it.)

" So, we are not able to accurately solve the problem, because we don’t actually understand what the reality is on the ground."

That sounds just like the media accusing normal Americans of being brainwashed by the Orange Crush; a total, complete failure to understand WHY so many of us supported, and still support, Trump. The media is willfully ignorant. Then you have Hillary Clinton saying we need to be "deprogrammed" aka that America needs re-edcuation camps similar to the Soviet Union.

They don't understand because they choose not to. We are evil people in their minds and must be destroyed. But terrorists who kidnap children, murder the elderly, and spread wanton destruction must be understood?

WE are living under occupation.

The Palestinians are not a people. They are disparate peoples who settled in the area. Their original country was Trans-Jordan but the Jordanians pulled out when the radicals led the war against the fledgling Israel. Palestine has been at war with Israel ever since, and has never negotiated in good faith.

I might add there are plenty of Arabs who are Israeli citizens and live peacably in Israel.

Of course, the current Progressive paradigm won't let US live peaceably in America, an America we built.

That's why we voted for Trump in the first place; we were "blockaded, besieged, decimated economically and politically, have nothing to lose. "

Our humanity is missing in the coverage of Conservative Americans every time the media speaks about us. We are cretins, or monsters, or imbeciles to them.

The Media and Left systematically dehumanizes middle America and then wonders why we support Trump. They can't understand our bitterness, us "bitter clingers, clinging to our God and guns". What do the Palestinians do? Cling to Allah and their guns. But WE don't go around killing people, or burning cities, or kidnapping. We never use our guns in rebellion; there were none of J6 despite the very best efforts to call it an "insurrection". So why is it we must understand the Palesinian rightous indignation but they won't bother to understand ours? Is it because we DON'T kill people?

The hypocrisy of the Left is indeed galling, but their lies to themselves and total lack of self-awareness is even more amazing.

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