January 14, 2026


Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at
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First, from many things I've read, we are very haphazard about our "climate measuring," in that we are very careless about collecting lots of our data from places where temperatures are contaminated by buildings, pavements and other things that artificially affect them. I would think that real honest-to-God scientists would be very finicky about making sure their measurements were taken from places where there as few as possible factors that could create "noise" to contaminate their data; but it is obvious that they aren't.
Another thing is that it seems to me that we are dealing with timeframes that are, in the long run, too short to matter a great deal. When you consider that something like the Medieval Warm period lasted around four hundred or more years, you need to take into account that it was significant to the people who lived during it -- very significant indeed -- but was it really significant if you are going to take measurements from some point in time during the middle of it and start saying "Wow, the world is warming, we'd better tell Al Gore?" For that, you'd want to know temperatures before the start and after the end and see how they stack up.
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at January 14, 2026 07:05 PM (Kg0VH)
On the first, Dr. Spencer is aware of the problems with temperature data; he's quite chummy with AnthonyWatts, who did the survey on the surface stations to begin with. But remember Spencer runs the UAH satellite division and his data comes primarily from satellite surveillance rather than the surface stations most warmists rely on so heavily. The satellite data is far superior because it is not dependent on it's siting and whatnot.
Watts survey can be found at www.surfacestations.org and it's a hoot to look at the photos provided; stations wedged between two huge air conditioning compressors, cited next to steaming wastewater treatment plants, on blacktops in parking lots, etc.
I would add Dr. Spencer wrote a paper a while back where he concluded it is just this sort of temperature bias in the data that accounts for ALL modern time climate warming we've observed - even the satellite data, because it is waste heat being observed from industrial facilities and from blacktops and deforestation rather than from co2. Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. always argued this was the case (he was monomaniacal on the subject) and I had some long conversation with Pielks when he had his website. He was professor emeritus at UC Boulder.
Your second point is also spot on. A single point in time tells us nothing, nor do even a couple of decades. It's the long-term trends you have to look at. For instance if we were to start our temperature graph with the Little Ice Age we'd see an enormous spike in temperatures - if we start after the Dalton Minimum we would see a far gentler increase. In no way would we understand it if we didn't know we were coming out of a cold period in an interglacial.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at January 15, 2026 08:40 AM (umJ+Y)
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