June 16, 2025

California Dreaming

Timothy Birdnow

California was itching to be liberated from Mexico. That's why it fell to a few American rebel citizens in the first place.

The Claim That America Stole California from Mexico is an Ignorant Lie

Zoro was about this very dissatisfacttion. He wasn't fighting Americans; he was fighting Mexicans.

These same people make this claim over Texas too. Texas was largely settled by Americans because it was a dangerous and naturally poor place, full of the most hostile Indians who ever existed. Mexicans were unwilling to risk it by moving there. And what claim did Mexico have to this land? Just that it was part of the original Spanish claim. In the end they had no real claim on it, nor did they develop it.

The Texans had a lot of reasons to rebel; they had all settled there under the Constitution of 1824, and first Bustamante' then Santa Ana suspended that constitution. The Texans lost all their rights with the stroke of a pen. When Stephen Austin went to complain he was arrested and thrown in prison.

Texas wasn't the only northern Mexican province to try to secede; there was also the short-lived Republic of the Rio Grande' which encompased parts of Texas and New Mexico as well as much of northern Mexico. Santa Ana crushed that. He pillaged all the northern states but he couldn't get Texas because his supply lines were too stretched (Texas is notoriously difficult to reach by sea as tides move what are safe harbors.) Sam Houston lured Santa Ana into a swamp and then attacked for the first time and took "The Napoleon of the West" prisoner, forcing him to sign the treaties of Velasco ( May 14, 1836) at gunpoint. Texas applied immediately for annexation by the U.S. but was turned down and so became independent for ten years (and had constant trouble with the sore loser Mexicans.)

At any rate we did NOT steal Texas, nor did we steal California. These were places that wanted to be in the Union.

On the other hand a good chunk of Texas and the southwest were part of the original Louisiana Purchase but claimed by Mexico and we let them keep it until they picked a fight with us.

Now they want it all "back" when it never really was theirs to begin with. If anyone got the shaft it was the Indians native to the area - Apache, karankawa, etc. (Comanche came later from the mountains once they got horses.)

Well, California wanted to be part of the U.S. and that should have included lower (Baja) California. Maybe we should demand that "back" from Mexico?

By the way the U.S. paid Mexico for the land it annexed, so how is that "stealing"?

James Polk wanted it (the most successful President in American history) but was willing to let it go because we weren't just trying to conquer Mexico (which we already had) and so we tossed them that bone. Baja was mostly desert at the time. Still is.


Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at 08:11 AM | Comments (2) | Add Comment
Post contains 508 words, total size 3 kb.

1 You are correct about Polk, although in a few years, at the end of the second Trump administration, we may find that Donald J. is giving James K. a run for his money. I'm sure Bill H. will give me an argument here...

Posted by: Dana Mathewson at June 16, 2025 10:14 PM (ur1BY)

2 Polk is the unsung hero of American politics. He's forgotten because he greatly expanded America at Mexico's expense and they think of him as an "imperialist". But who had the rights to that land? Mexico only had it because it was part of the old Spanish colonial empire, no other reason.

Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at June 17, 2025 06:53 AM (TWsPO)

Hide Comments | Add Comment




What colour is a green orange?




24kb generated in CPU 0.0257, elapsed 0.2941 seconds.
37 queries taking 0.2806 seconds, 175 records returned.
Powered by Minx 1.1.6c-pink.
Always on Watch
America First News
The American Thinker
Bird`s Articles
Old Birdblog
Birdblog`s Literary Corner
Behind the Black Blaze News
Borngino Report
Canada Free Press
Center for Immigration Studies
Common Sense and Wonder < br/ > Christian Daily Reporter
Citizens Free Press
>Climatescepticsparty> Daily Caller News Foundation
Conservative Angle
Conservative Treehouse
Daren Jonescu
The Daily Fetched
Dana and Martha Music From the Heart Music
On my Mind Conservative Victory
Eco-Imperialism
Gelbspan Files Just the Facts
Infidel Bloggers Alliance
Jo Nova
Lifezette
Let .the Truth be Told
Newsmax
>Numbers Watch
OANN
Real Climate Science
The Reform Club
Revolver
FTP Student Action
Veritas PAC
FunMurphys
The Galileo Movement
Intellectual Conservative
br /> Liberty Unboound
One Jerusalem
Powerline
Publius Forum
Ready Rants
The Gateway Pundit
The Jeffersonian Ideal
Thinking Democrat
Ultima Thule
Western Journalism
Science Daily
Science Tech Daily
Young Craig Music
Contact Tim at bgocciaatoutlook.com

Monthly Traffic

  • Pages: 158540
  • Files: 10234
  • Bytes: 3.2G
  • CPU Time: 423:54
  • Queries: 5310790

Content

  • Posts: 31295
  • Comments: 129692

Feeds


RSS 2.0 Atom 1.0