April 22, 2021

Light Blog Today

Timothy Birdnow

Sorry folks; very busy today and there will be little - or nothing - for today's blog. Check back tomorrow when I should be in better shape.

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April 21, 2021

Az Vote Fraud Case Going to SCOTUS

Timothy Birdnow

Here is a voter suppression/fraud case going to the Supreme Court.

From the EIN News:

Later, when Burk delivered her SCOTUS petition to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and Recorder, she noticed dumpsters near the Maricopa County Election Center. The following day she returned with a Purple Heart Vet and discovered the dumpster contained a bag of mutilated documents: shredded 2020 election ballots, shredded logs, shredded voter registration forms, and other shredded election material that is supposed to be preserved under federal law §20701; all ballots and paper records are supposed to be kept for 22 months. County Recorder, Stephen Richer, claimed only dead voter’s ballots that could not be counted, were shredded and dumped despite clear direction in law to preserve all ballots and related materials.
Shortly after Burk retrieved the shredded ballots Arizona Republican Senate Majority Whip, Sonny Borrelli, contacted her. During the heated conversation, Borrelli criticized much of the Arizona state government for being: untrustworthy, capable of destroying the evidence, and said Burk would be killed if she didn't turn over the ballots to him if the police didn't get to her. An audio recording between Burk and Borrelli was published in the Arizona Mirror. In that recording, Senator Borelli "repeatedly advised Staci Burk. . . that she is in danger because she held the "domino” that would overturn the resultsof the presidential election. Don’t trust anyone, he said while urging her to give him the ballots. This is the domino. This is the one domino (that) Arizona knocks over and we expose this corruption then the other states fall, too."



As a result of threats for her safety, Burk asked the SCOTUS this week to take possession of the shredded ballots and sanction Maricopa County for destroying evidence in the pending case. She said the shredded ballots and mutilated documents in the tabulation center dumpster, along with the large fire at one of the Defendant County Board of Supervisor's farm, demonstrate evidence that the County is likely destroying evidence vital to the case. Burk argued to the SCOTUS that Sonny Borelli said, no one at the legislature or Attorney General's office can be trusted with the shredded ballots. She also points out that in 2018, the Arizona legislature voted unanimously to pass SB1452 removing ballot stubs and other election security measures. The majority-Republican Arizona legislature failed to safeguard the 2020 election by creating the context for widespread voter suppression and intentionally removing election security measures that could identify fraud on a later audit.

Do note the Republicans are the ones pushing her not to pursue this - not the Democrats. I've said for some time that the GOP was complicit in the theft of the 2020 elections and I stand by that assessment. Arizona has been particularly bad; the AZ GOP is a bunch of RINO's who gave us John McCain and Jeff Flake and Jon Kyl.

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Stealing a Jury

Selwyn Duke

On the Chauvin trial:

The Left succeeded in stealing an election last year; now they might have succeeded in stealing a jury.

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Oppression in America

Warner Todd Huston observes:

Blacks in America represent at least ten percent of the U.S. economy. That is 2.5 trillion dollars. That is more than the annual economic output of ANY African nation. So... where is the "oppression," again?

Tim adds:

It's a strange kind of oppression where the oppressors have laws that give preferential treatment to the oppressed in government hiring, in granting scholarships and acceptance into higher education, that give preferences to the oppressed in handing out government contracts, small business loans, etc. It's a wierd form of oppression that lets the oppressed possess firearms and allows them to run amok with them in the big cities unchecked. It's a strange oppression that grants the oppressed the vote and in fact lets them not even present an I.D. to cast a ballot. Why, it's almost as if it's not oppression at all. In fact, one can argue it's actually privilege.

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The Pucillanimous and the Power Mad

Warner Todd Huston

When Republicans are in power they refuse it out of fear of setting "precedents" when Democrats come to power. When Democrats are in power they abuse it because propriety, the law, and the Constitution are not their concern.

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A Strange Kind of Murder

Now that the kangaroo court found Officer Derrick Chauvin guilty, we should review the actual forensics of the case:

From Willis Eschenbach:

With Derek Chauvin's trial approaching next week, as a reminder, George Floyd's autopsy did NOT show several things:

• No petechiae, indicating no strangulation.

• No visible or hidden trauma to the neck, shoulders, face, or larynx, indicating no excess pressure or blows to those areas.

• No scalp, skull, or brain injuries.

• No chest, rib, spine, or viscera injuries.

However, it DID show several other things.

• Positive COVID test

• A high, perhaps lethal level of fentanyl, the most potent of the opiates.

• A level of 65 ng/mL of 4-ANPP, an indication of a fentanyl overdose.

• Methamphetamine

• Cannabis

• Cotenine (a tobacco metabolite)

Now, if the officer in question was black and the dead person was white, this wouldn't even be a question. We have a dead man with COVID who smoked both cigarettes and marijuana, took meth, and was a junkie with high levels of fentanyl in his blood. What was surprising was not that he was dead. It was that he was still walking around,

But the BurnLootMurder folks, the Pantie Fascists, and the Democrats who support them don't care about the facts. Far too many of them want vengeance, not justice.

Was this "systemic racism"? I wondered about that myself, so I did the research. I found out that in Minneapolis where George Floyd died, the Mayor, the Chief of Police, the Deputy Chief of Police, and 22% of the cops are black, while the city is 18% black ... sorry, not systemic racism.

So we'll see what happens in the Chauvin trial. I fear that unless he is sentenced to be drawn and quartered in the public square we'll see even more of the rioting, church burning, and general violence that the Democrats enabled, encouraged and supported over the last nine months.

I gotta say, I give huge props to anyone putting on a police uniform these days and going out to keep violence and crime at bay ... my profound thanks to all those who guard the gates so the rest of us can sleep easy in our beds.

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Nationalism and Internationalism in the Post-Modern World

Mark Musser

The former Soviet Union was a gigantic attempt to internationaliz e many nation states under the banner of international socialism, which failed within the margins of a generation or two following Stalin's death. The reality, if not the law or principle of Balkanization, invariably dethroned the audacious dream of international communism and/ or socialism which came at astronomical amounts of blood-letting to get there. What is not well appreciated in our presumed secular-progressivis t world is the the fallout of the Tower of Babel described in Genesis 10-11, where the Lord sent the Babylonian world of that day packing across the planet every which way very quickly (not by slow gradual evolution), replete with new languages and new environments in which to develop new cultures, is/was permanent.

Different nations and people groups and/ or tribes are recognized not only in the biblical apocalypse, the coming Messianic Kingdom of righteousness, but also in eternity as Revelation 20-21 makes so clear. Having rejected the Judeo-Christian worldview and its biblical heritage, the great debate/crisis in the early 20th century in Europe became over what kind of secularized progressivist socialism to have in the world now that God is practically dead - international Marxism/ Socialism or socialism within one's country as Fascism emphasized. Such a distinction, in some ways very minor from a theoretical point of view, led to the biggest world war in human history yet to date in World War II. It was a mini-apocalypse of sorts drenched in the political blood of secular Social Darwinisms which came from both sides in any and all the debates.

In spite of the present growing madness to internationaliz e the world once again since the end of the Cold War according to what perhaps may be at the very best described as some kind of trashy socialism of some sort along new 'evolutionary' paths that only speaks of distinctions when it sees Christians and Jews, the virus chaos quickly balkanized the world wherein many borders were closed or severely restricted to human traffic so that it quickly became every man for himself locked up in his own home in his own country. Internationalis ms always are based on very tenuous and temporary grounds. Thanks to the virus scare, balkanization has now even pried deeply into the United States as well between 'Left' and 'Right' with the 'Left' owning both coastlands with all of its economic and political clout in the big commercial cities vs. the heartland which still leans 'Right,' but is rapidly fading away thanks to the fact that the Judeo-Christian worldview and the Bible has lost its hold on all too many American hearts and minds.

What is not well understood even by prophecy teachers is this push and pull between internationalis m and nationalism which the Bible presumes throughout from Genesis to Revelation. Much the same could be said of the political analysis being bandied around today as well. This also means that nationalism by itself, is not good. It is usually bad. The more nationalism is internationaliz ed, the worse it gets, of course, but most nationalisms are barely better than the internationalis ms they oppose. The American experiment was the exception because it was strongly based on Judeo-Christian Protestant values that are no longer really with us. More to the point, the same progressivist forces which created secular nationalisms all over Europe to get away from Catholicism, now want to re-unite Europe into a new technocratic utopia. Religious totalitarianism is being replaced with political totalitarianism . Such are the bitter fruits of profaning the world along secularist lines.

In light of such history since the Tower of Babel, it thus should not be surprising that Jesus specifically teaches in the Olivet Discourse, which predicts what is otherwise known as the Great Tribulation everywhere warned of throughout the the Old Testament, that "Nation will rise up against nation." The Apostle John then tells us even the Antichrist with all of his demonic authority and powers will still have a very difficult time through lots of warfare to take complete control of the world - and then when he finally does, wars will still continue, and his absolute reign of terror will be at most for 3 1/ 2 years as Revelation 13-19 makes clear. The push and pull and nationalism vs. internationalism is thus at the very heart even of the apocalypse itself and needs to be understood much better than is usually discussed. In the very place where civilization began, Babylon in Genesis 10-11, will be the same place that history will end in Revelation 17-19.

Such will be our great themes for the next few weeks as we have begun teaching the book of Revelation in Yerevan now for Dr. Ron Minton's International Baptist Bible College (IBBC). IBBC college modules meet usually 3-4 times a year in a number of locations in the former Soviet Union. It provides very fertile opportunities to practice what many have called "cross-cultural mission" work. I just finished a course on Proverbs for IBBC in Ukraine last week, and have started Revelation for IBBC now in Armenia. While it is not easy to balance such ministry demands as the former Soviet Union becomes more and more balkanized, I am still greatly honored and humbled to have the opportunity to do so, particular in today's very restricted suffocating atmosphere.

Furthermore, the apostle Paul tells us how to accomplish all this in 1st Corinthians 9:19-23 using grace and liberty to do so, "Though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I may win more. To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some. I do all things for the sake of the gospel, so that I may become a fellow partaker of it." In other words, contrary to popular opinion, grace and liberty are not a license to sin that all so many typically denigrate both for like a knee-jerk reaction, whether religiously or politically. On the contrary, grace and liberty are to be used for service. In other words, love that is not voluntary does not usually come across too well (Galatians 5:13-14).

I would even strongly venture to say the primary reason why service is now being limited these days is largely because all too many, including all too many of God's own people, have turned their backs on grace and liberty. What does a world look like without grace and liberty? Well, take a look around these days and open your eyes and take a good hard look at where we are at as we have entered into the realm of what can easily be characterized as bio-security. Biopolitics was big politics in fascist yesteryear under the banner of National Socialism. I assume that eco-security is next on the list from what I can see, and is actually the bigger prize as far as our world elites are concerned. It looks like bio-security will be used to accomplish eco-security? Converging biopolitics with political ecology is a pipe dream that has not been seriously attempted since the National Socialists combined eugenics with sustainable development and environmentalis m.

We live in such serious times and have been left completely exposed to a plethora of so many dangers on the horizon religiously, politically, economically, socially, and psychologically speaking far beyond the present medical concerns of it all. It even appears the crown virus madness has done permanent damage? I hope and pray not, but so far, I have yet to see any serious decisions being made to recover what has been lost. Jesus tells the church of Sardis of John's day that He is coming like a thief. He thus encourages the church of Thyatira in spite of its many compromises, "Nevertheless what you have, hold fast until I come (Rev. 2:25). " Jesus also warns the church of Philadelphia, "I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown (Rev. 3:11)." The Lord has big plans for us, but we need to finish the race.

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When Politicians Take People's Food Stores Away

Selwyn Duke

https://www.selwynduke.com/2021/04/when-woke-politicians-take-peoples-food-stores-away.html

Because Long Beach politicians are short on common sense, not to mention common decency, their constituents are now closer to living in a "food desert.” At issue is the closure of two of the California city’s major grocery stores as the result of policy reflecting the AOC School of Economics.

Tim adds:

You know  I have for a long time warned that the Left is engaging in the control of food - of food production, and distrinution - for political ends. They drew lessons from the "hydraulic empire" theory (which argued that China and Egypt and some other totalitarian systems derived their power from their control of water which gave them control of agriculture. If people got uppity they went thirsty and hungry.) This particular incident may not be pre-planned but it works within the template of this effort to control food. When the stores are all gone you have to turn to government for your daily bread. Couple this with the destruction of private farming through environmentalism and monetary manipulation and you can pretty much make people do what you wish.

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Seeding America

Selwyn Duke

https://www.selwynduke.com/2021/04/biden-is-seeding-the-country-with-change-agents-covid-carrying-illegals-and-terrorists.html

The Left is applying the principle: If you can’t get the people to change the government, change the people. Or, as Alan Keyes once put it, "We're being colonized."

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April 20, 2021

Fake WuFlu

David Redfern

From November 2020:

"Top pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson told Canadian government officials in Alberta during a phone conference that the coronavirus pandemic is "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.” Hodkinson, who is the CEO of a biotech company that sells COVID tests, says "There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians.” We are seeing "politics playing medicine, and that’s a very dangerous game.”
Positive test results do not mean a clinical infection, he says. All testing should stop because the false numbers they produce are "driving public hysteria.” Hodkinson says the risk of death for people under the age of 65 is "one in three-hundred thousand” and it is "outrageous” to shut down society for what is merely "just another bad flu.” 2020 November"



The whole thing has been a scam to induce public fear. Laws and conventions have been overturned without debate in parliament and they'll never be rescinded. Instead, they'll be repurposed to bolster the states power over the individual.

PCR tests are not for diagnosis, they never were, but compliant 'Scientists' who promote 'The Science' were wheeled out by governments, whilst the dissenting voices of tens of thousands of medical and scientific professionals were ignored. Those professionals were ridiculed, maligned and silenced with the assistance of the rabidly left wing Legacy and Social media.

A CNN Boss has gloated over the misinformation they have succeeded in disseminating, and once it's over, has expressed the organisations intention to target Climate Change as their next target to hoodwink the public with, simply to maintain CNN's position as a 'News' broadcaster.

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Civil Disobedience

"All men recognize the right of revolution; that is, the right to refuse allegiance to, and to resist, the government, when its tyranny or its inefficiency are great and unendurable.”

~ Henry David Thoreau (1942). "Civil Disobedience”

Hat tip: Chester McAteer

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Back in Black

Warner Todd Huston

Chicago's mayor, her underlings, and their friends in the BLM activist sector have been running around saying Chicago is soaked in "systemic racism."

So, let's review some of that "racism":

1. Democrats have controlled the Chicago Mayor's office for 89 years.
2. Chicago's mayor is black.
3. Chicago's Superintendent of Police is black.
4. Cook County's States' Attorney is black.
5. The Chief Judge of Cook County Circuit Courts is black.
6. Illinois' Attorney General is black.
7. Chicago's Fire Department Commissioner is black.
8. Cook County's Board President is black.
9. Illinois' State Senate Majority Leader is black.
10. Illinois's Lieutenant Governor is black.
11. Illinois' Secretary of State is black.
12. Cook County's Clerk of the Circuit Court is black.
13. Cook County's Clerk is black.
14. Chicago's Treasurer is black.
15. Chicago's Police Board President is black.
16. Chicago's Transit Authority President is black.
17. Chicago's CEO of Public Schools is black.
18. Chicago's Commissioner of the Department of Water Management is black.
19. 40% of the City Council are members of the Black Caucus.
20. Their average pay is $122,304/year each, PLUS $122,000/year each in expenses.
21. Their pension for life is 80% of last pay.
22. Republican head count in the City Council is ZERO.
23, William Hale Thompson was the last Republican Mayor of Chicago in1931.
24. Of 2,240 Shootings, 97.7% of the shooters were black however BLM, ANTIFA and the democrats assign blame to law enforcement and "systemic racism."
25. At the end of fiscal 2019 Chicago's deficit was $838,200,000!

Is that all a result of "systemic racism"?

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Waters Jury Tampers

Bob Clasen observes:

Maxine Waters, Congresswoman, flew from DC to Minneapolis to encourage an angry mob to be more "confrontationa

l” if the jury in the Chauvin murder trial fails to deliver a guilty verdict. Why isn't this jury intimidation?

Tim responds:

The Defense moved for a mistrial as a result of this and acts of prosecutorial malfeasance but the judge dismissed the motions. They got it in the record though for an appeal. The judge tried to say that he instructed the jurors to not listen to anything like this so it made it all better! The fact is this IS jury tampering and this woman should be charged with that.

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April 19, 2021

NC Task Force to Oppose left Wing Indoctrination in Schools

Selwyn Duke

"The philosophy of the classroom today will be the philosophy of government tomorrow,” informs the apocryphal quotation. This saying gets at a serious issue and, finally, a politician is taking it seriously.

In fact, North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, a Republican, has created a task force to tackle the left-wing philosophies (aka propaganda) pervading today’s government schools.

https://www.selwynduke.com/2021/04/north-carolina-creates-task-force-to-combat-left-wing-ideologies-in-public-schools.html

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Maxine Waters incitement and dumb things teens do

Jack Kemp

Leah Barkoukis reports today at Townhall.com about Maxine "Mad Max" Walters' latest dumb move, especially since Walters is trying to sue Donald Trump for inciting a riot by his words on January 6th of this year in Washington. She writes, in part...

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to take action against Rep. Maxine Waters over comments she made "inciting violence," vowing to take matters into his own hands if she doesn’t.

"Maxine Waters is inciting violence in Minneapolis — just as she has incited it in the past,” McCarthy said in a statement. "If Speaker Pelosi doesn’t act against this dangerous rhetoric, I will bring action this week.”

END OF QUOTE

Now I'm sure many of our readers know of dumb teenage kids that do dumb things, including themselves in past decades. I recall one event that I saw at the end of an NHL game in Madison Square Garden decades ago. Hockey games draw some aggressive fans but this was just plain dumb. I was not the dumb kid.

The NY Rangers were in the last five minutes of losing to an NHL team that no longer exists, the California Seals. People were leaving their seats making their way down the stairs to the exit ramps and also standing in aisles. A huge man around six feet four was standing in an aisle blocking the view of teenage boy who looked like he weighed 140 pounds. The boy asked the man to move. When the big man didn't, the kid smacked him in the shoulder. The man just turned around and looked at the small kid and went back to watching the last two minutes of the game. The boy calmed down and did nothing else.

So teenagers will try all kinds of things to learn what they can do to look like a big man, even if they are incredibly dumb. Some of you may have heard of the teen movie "Varsity Blues" where some teen actors were filmed lying down on the center line of a two lane road as cars (driven by professional stunt drivers) drove by them, perhaps very slowly with the film later speeded up to make the feat seem more daring. It will surprise few of you readers when I now say that some teens in real life on real streets tried this trick and got killed by drivers.

So when Maxine Waters urges young people to riot, she is risking their lives but not her own. And also risking the lives and property of people who own businesses who just might take their fire insurance money later on and move out of town or out of the state. Even if the riot is some wealthy neighborhood, I would bet the former store owners hired young teens of all ethnic groups to be cashiers and stock clerks. So now Maxine can complain that no young blacks can get jobs in that riot area as she advocates raising taxes.

But you can't raise taxes on someone who no longer pays taxes in that town. But Maxine Waters is all about wanting more power and a show of force. As as the old politically incorrect joke says, Maxine is opening a chain of empty stores. And if the riot occurs in a minority neighborhood, she is doing the Klan's work for them, things that the Klu Klux Klan never dreamed tey could have gotten away with decades ago or now.





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Inciting Violence

From Willis Eschenbach:

I see that my liberal friends who falsely claimed that President Trump "incited violence" are totally quiet about Maxine Waters threatening the jury and calling for riots if Derek Chauvin isn't convicted ... and the Republicans except for Georgia Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene are just as quiet.

Gotta say, I wish the rest of the Republicans had the stones that Rep. Marjorie has ... she said:

===
”I’ll be introducing a resolution to expel Rep. Maxine Waters from Congress for her continual incitement of violence.

Rep. Waters is a danger to our society.

After traveling across state lines to incite riots, her orders recorded on video last night at the Brooklyn Center, directly led to more violence and a drive by shooting on National Guardsmen in Minnesota early this morning.

As a sitting United States Congresswoman, Rep. Maxine Waters threatened a jury demanding a guilty verdict and threatened violence if Chauvin is found not guilty. This is also an abuse of power.

Rep. Maxine Waters must be expelled from Congress!”
===

Threatening a jury and DEMANDING riots if the court doesn't rule the way she wants? That's 100% inciting violence.

Tim adds:

A guy named Terrence Williams was live-streaming on Facebook. Zuckerberg's minions cut the feed.

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Don't Piss Off the Bankers

Timothy Birdnow

In a discussion about the assassination of Abraham Lincoln Richard Cronin made the following observation:

There were assassination attempts on Andrew Jackson. Jackson broke up the central bank — the powerful Bank of America.

Lincoln introduced the Greenback to get out from under the British pound and the Bank of England.

Jack Kennedy introduced the Treasury note to get out of currency & credit control by the Federal Reserve.

See the common thread ? Screwing with the Central Bank.

I add:

"In the important Treasury post, Garfield broke openly with Conkling when he appointed William Windom of Minnesota; Garfield insisted that he wanted someone free from the influence of eastern bankers." https:// millercenter.org /president/ garfield/ domestic-affairs

So that explains Garfield. And of course McKinley signed the Gold Standard Act which took the bread out of the banker's mouths.

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Yes, the Covid Vaccine Can Change Your Genes

Timothy Birdnow

I've posted this link before but it bears repeating. It's about the way the Covid vaccines can change our genetic coding. It's not written by Robert Kennedy or some such either, but rather by Dr. Ken Biegeleisen, a well-respected virologist.

It's pretty technical, but do read the whole thing.

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Tight CA Gun Control Fails to Slow Gun Violence

Timothy Birdnow

I'm not surprised. The imposition of gun control in a lot of countries had zero impact on gun crimes. Brazil has some of the strictes gun laws in the world and their gun crime levels were not effected.

California’s Background Check Law Had No Impact on Gun Deaths, Johns Hopkins Study Finds

In 1991, California simultaneously imposed comprehensive background checks for firearm sales and prohibited gun sales (and gun possession) to people convicted of misdemeanor violent crimes. The legislation mandated that all gun sales, including private transactions, would have to go through a California-licensed Federal Firearms License (FFL) dealer. Shotguns and rifles, like handguns, became subject to a 15-day waiting period to make certain all gun purchasers had undergone a thorough background check.

More than a quarter of a century later, researchers at Johns Hopkins and UC Davis dug into the results of the sweeping legislation.

It was the most expansive state gun control legislation in America, affecting an estimatedone million gun buyers in the first year alone. Though costly and cumbersome, politicians and law enforcement agreed the law was worth it.

The legislation would "keep more guns out of the hands of the people who shouldn’t have them,” said then-Republican Gov. George Deukmejian.

"I think the new laws are going to help counter the violence,” said LAPD spokesman William D. Booth.

More than a quarter of a century later, researchers at Johns Hopkins and UC Davis dug into the results of the sweeping legislation. Researchers compared yearly gun suicide and homicide rates over the 10 years following implementation of California’s law with 32 control states that did not have such laws.

They found "no change in the rates of either cause of death from firearms through 2000.”

Gee; whoda thunk it?

Legal guns are not and never have been the problem. The Left knows it too. They push for this for other reasons.

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Evolution and Genesis

Timothy Birdnow

Here is an interesting discussion about the Adam and Eve story in the Book of Genesis.

Bob Clasen says:

Thoughts on "Original Sin”

Is there any truth to the Adam and Eve myth?

We evolved (or were created) by an evolutionary process of millions of years. During that process, we competed for scarce resources with warring tribes and large carnivores. We also competed with fellow humans for desirable mates and for success on the dominance hierarchy.

This is not a background to encourage the development of peaceful angels or self sacrificing martyrs. Everyone is born with these evolutionary instincts.

In this sense, I believe there is realistic truth in the Original Sin myth. Humans are not born sweet and loving and self sacrificing. We are evolved to compete for scarce resources and mates and to struggle to rise on our dominance hierarchy. We are the last in a long list of ancestors whose one shared characteristic is that they survived AND reproduced.

Jim Shepherd replies:

If you call the Adam and Eve story a myth, perhaps you've already determined whether it's true or not.

Bob Clasen adds:

A myth is a story that has real meaning but which is not necessarily literally true. Stories that have lasted for thousands and thousands of years last for a reason. They signify something important. The Tree of Life. The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Modern critics say it is not fair to punish children for the sins of an ancestor (except for Black Lives Matter) but that is taking the story literally. Isn’t it interesting that the very first human disobeyed and and sinned, after he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? Setting aside the question of whether it is literally true what does this mean? See Jung, Joseph Campbell and Jordan Peterson, to name just a few.

Jim adds:

Yes I understand the concept that myth has different meanings other than the regular one of not being literally true. What I find fascinating about the Genesis story of Adam and Eve is that even the literal understanding of this story is missed by many people. Recently, I've read the story taking pen and paper, reading it word for word, and using a Hebrew lexicon to find the what the words actually mean in Hebrew. It's quite interesting indeed. more...

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