August 21, 2021
Arguing with Idiots Vaccine Edition
Timothy Birdnow
More arguing with a covidiot.
First, David Nabhan observed:
This prompted the virus panic monger Gary Katz to object:
I watched CNN last night for the first time in...what...yea
BTW, though, if you think the "2 wks to flatten the curve" types that went straight to 2 years to lockdown the world are going to let you off with...just one vaccine shot, and one booster? Brother, are you in for a rude shock. Big Pharma, the chemical companies, and the government now with their claws in you are never going to let you wriggle away. There's going to be "variants" and "boosters" and "strains" and covid-23, 24, 25, 26...all the way to the omega variant, and then they'll start over. Turn on the TV tonight and watch them falling on their faces in Afghanistan. These are entities who can't tie their shoelaces, but...they are EXPERTS in sinking their fangs into people, and just sucking until the cows come home. There's my two cents.
Mr. Katz replies:
The scientists who came up with the vaccines aren't the same people who abandoned Bagram Air Base in the dead of night. In fact, most of the former are probably disgusted at the latter.
David comes back:
Agreed, yet they're on the same payroll. Of course they're disgusted, but they'll keep their mouths shut about it. The same way Turks kept quiet about all the Armenians strangely disappearing, the same way no single American--insid
Evelyn Ford jumps into the fray:
Gary Katz, you do realize that you are not being given full transparency. That Doctors with pretty impressive pedigrees, like Dr. Michael Yeadon are being canceled and deplatformed because they are simply saying proceed with caution. That non clinical trials conducted are being buried because they are small scale, one of which by the way saw the accumulation of spike cells in the ovaries of all the female rats and could indicate possible permanent infertility. To glibly say you would rather die in 25 years is disingenuous and frankly a bit ignorant. No one knows when long term issues can or will rear their ugly heads, it can be in 3,5 or 10 years, 100’s of drugs removed from the market are proof of that. Maybe it does not bother you that Men under 30 are having heart infection(myoca
David Raffa adds:
Evelyn yes and he doesn't want to know how many with the arm-jab actually have died and how many have permanent disabilities. Now with the booster shot that will be roughly every 8 months... until it's less time in-between that is. Each shot decreases immunity while it increases antibodies. More antibodies sounds great.. until you realize it's the last step in your immune response process and this faux shot of protection causes you to have too many. Then, with "ADE" factor the common cold will be deadly. - Katz, if your doctor didn't tell you about alternative optional treatments or what the possibilities would be... I'd speak to a lawyer.
Evelyn responds:
Believe me I know what a vaccine can do to ones body. In the early 90’s I let my doc talk me into the flu shot, within 24 hours I was intubated and in a coma. After I recovered, I started having allergic reactions to food I had eaten all my life, jewelry, plants, cosmetics, you name it. I had to start carrying an epi pen, it took nearly 20 years for these symptoms to almost disappear. On occasion I still have slight reactions. It was a nightmare I would not wish on anyone.
Tim adds:
In Britain the majority of those dying of Covid have been vaccinated.https://scitechdaily.com/more-vaccinated-people-are-dying-of-covid-in-england-than-unvaccinated-heres-why/
Oh, and Gary Katz, the scientist who pioneered using mRNA for vaccines thinks this is a crap idea. Google Robert Malone. Here is one article about what Dr. Malone has to say about the vaccine. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9719891/Inventor-mRNA-vaccines-says-young-adults-teens-not-forced-COVID-vaccine.html Try looking up Dr. Joseph Marcola too. https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/21/mrna-inventor-interviewed-about-injection-dangers.aspx Also look up immunologist Brian Bridle. There are huge warning signs suggesting this is a bad idea.
See also https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173600060.html and this overview https://jayceescommentaries.wordpress.com/2021/06/25/the-covid-vaccines-are-toxicdeadly-and-harmful-to-your-health/
But like SCIENCE dude!
Look up Antibody Dependent Enhancement. This vaccine seems to lead to this condition. Nobel laureat Prof. Luc Montagnier warns the Covid vaccine can cause this. Here is a study warning of the dangers. https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext
David Nabhan is right; he who pays the bills is boss, and the people paying the bills are the government, which has a vested interest in this thing going on and on and an endless parade of new variants to keep the public docile.
Evelyn Ford replies:
I have been trying to dig up information on the actual trials and most of what is available is downright alarming. Moderna for example initially had 45 people, yep that’s it. Phase 2 information is not available, only that they intended to enroll 600 people. Johnson had roughly 800. From clinical phase 1 trials to mass vaccination it was less than 9 months. Phase 1 trials usually take 3 to 9 years alone. Why do they take that long, to study long term effects, that’s why. Concerning results from non clinical trials were ignored or dismissed with excuses such as they were too small, really? I have medical professionals in my family that at first were all gung-ho about it, but since have done a 180 after seeing mysterious conditions emerging among some of their patients after getting the vaccines. Yeah this crap is concerning.
More arguing with a covidiot.
First, David Nabhan observed:
We’ve only
known about the very existence of viruses for a blink of an eye;
Dimitri Ivanovski described the new lifeform killing Crimea’s tobacco
crop in 1892. The 1946 Nobel Prize was awarded when this virus was
first isolated. In 1992 "giant viruses†were discovered—frea
But the same people heroically swinging in the dark have cooked up a serum they’ll give you a free marijuana joint-for-a-jab
Meanwhile, almost every person dying from the delta variant hasn't been vaccinated. I'd rather die in 25 years than tomorrow.
David replies:I watched CNN last night for the first time in...what...yea
BTW, though, if you think the "2 wks to flatten the curve" types that went straight to 2 years to lockdown the world are going to let you off with...just one vaccine shot, and one booster? Brother, are you in for a rude shock. Big Pharma, the chemical companies, and the government now with their claws in you are never going to let you wriggle away. There's going to be "variants" and "boosters" and "strains" and covid-23, 24, 25, 26...all the way to the omega variant, and then they'll start over. Turn on the TV tonight and watch them falling on their faces in Afghanistan. These are entities who can't tie their shoelaces, but...they are EXPERTS in sinking their fangs into people, and just sucking until the cows come home. There's my two cents.
Mr. Katz replies:
The scientists who came up with the vaccines aren't the same people who abandoned Bagram Air Base in the dead of night. In fact, most of the former are probably disgusted at the latter.
David comes back:
Agreed, yet they're on the same payroll. Of course they're disgusted, but they'll keep their mouths shut about it. The same way Turks kept quiet about all the Armenians strangely disappearing, the same way no single American--insid
Gary Katz, you do realize that you are not being given full transparency. That Doctors with pretty impressive pedigrees, like Dr. Michael Yeadon are being canceled and deplatformed because they are simply saying proceed with caution. That non clinical trials conducted are being buried because they are small scale, one of which by the way saw the accumulation of spike cells in the ovaries of all the female rats and could indicate possible permanent infertility. To glibly say you would rather die in 25 years is disingenuous and frankly a bit ignorant. No one knows when long term issues can or will rear their ugly heads, it can be in 3,5 or 10 years, 100’s of drugs removed from the market are proof of that. Maybe it does not bother you that Men under 30 are having heart infection(myoca
David Raffa adds:
Evelyn yes and he doesn't want to know how many with the arm-jab actually have died and how many have permanent disabilities. Now with the booster shot that will be roughly every 8 months... until it's less time in-between that is. Each shot decreases immunity while it increases antibodies. More antibodies sounds great.. until you realize it's the last step in your immune response process and this faux shot of protection causes you to have too many. Then, with "ADE" factor the common cold will be deadly. - Katz, if your doctor didn't tell you about alternative optional treatments or what the possibilities would be... I'd speak to a lawyer.
Evelyn responds:
Believe me I know what a vaccine can do to ones body. In the early 90’s I let my doc talk me into the flu shot, within 24 hours I was intubated and in a coma. After I recovered, I started having allergic reactions to food I had eaten all my life, jewelry, plants, cosmetics, you name it. I had to start carrying an epi pen, it took nearly 20 years for these symptoms to almost disappear. On occasion I still have slight reactions. It was a nightmare I would not wish on anyone.
In Britain the majority of those dying of Covid have been vaccinated.https://scitechdaily.com/more-vaccinated-people-are-dying-of-covid-in-england-than-unvaccinated-heres-why/
Oh, and Gary Katz, the scientist who pioneered using mRNA for vaccines thinks this is a crap idea. Google Robert Malone. Here is one article about what Dr. Malone has to say about the vaccine. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9719891/Inventor-mRNA-vaccines-says-young-adults-teens-not-forced-COVID-vaccine.html Try looking up Dr. Joseph Marcola too. https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/21/mrna-inventor-interviewed-about-injection-dangers.aspx Also look up immunologist Brian Bridle. There are huge warning signs suggesting this is a bad idea.
See also https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173600060.html and this overview https://jayceescommentaries.wordpress.com/2021/06/25/the-covid-vaccines-are-toxicdeadly-and-harmful-to-your-health/
But like SCIENCE dude!
Look up Antibody Dependent Enhancement. This vaccine seems to lead to this condition. Nobel laureat Prof. Luc Montagnier warns the Covid vaccine can cause this. Here is a study warning of the dangers. https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext
David Nabhan is right; he who pays the bills is boss, and the people paying the bills are the government, which has a vested interest in this thing going on and on and an endless parade of new variants to keep the public docile.
Evelyn Ford replies:
I have been trying to dig up information on the actual trials and most of what is available is downright alarming. Moderna for example initially had 45 people, yep that’s it. Phase 2 information is not available, only that they intended to enroll 600 people. Johnson had roughly 800. From clinical phase 1 trials to mass vaccination it was less than 9 months. Phase 1 trials usually take 3 to 9 years alone. Why do they take that long, to study long term effects, that’s why. Concerning results from non clinical trials were ignored or dismissed with excuses such as they were too small, really? I have medical professionals in my family that at first were all gung-ho about it, but since have done a 180 after seeing mysterious conditions emerging among some of their patients after getting the vaccines. Yeah this crap is concerning.
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When the "fact" stays the same but the "reason" changes my "BS meter" hits the top peg. Hydroxychloroquine is banned at first because it is dangerous - it causes heart problems. Oh, maybe not. People have been eating it like candy for decades and are not keeling over from heart attacks. It's still banned, but now because "it doesn't work."
Posted by: Bill H at August 22, 2021 09:33 PM (/sW5m)
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If Donald Trump had never uttered the word "Hydroxychloroquine," everybody'd be just fine with using it to treat... whatever. This is a classic example of guilt by association.
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at August 22, 2021 10:21 PM (djD2v)
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Absolutely right Bill. And now we are told to take a radical new drug that is implicated in heart problems when that was the reason to not use hqc in the first place.
This whole pandemic has been a bait and switch, which is why I am so very suspicious of everything we've been told.
Yeah Dana; Trump thought it a good idea so they would never, ever consider it. That it is an established drug and cheap also didn't help; the drug companies are making enormous sums of cash off this and will continue to do so for the forseeable future.
Wonder how much drug stock Pelosi and Biden and the rest control? (No doubt they don't own it to avoid legal issues.)
This whole pandemic has been a bait and switch, which is why I am so very suspicious of everything we've been told.
Yeah Dana; Trump thought it a good idea so they would never, ever consider it. That it is an established drug and cheap also didn't help; the drug companies are making enormous sums of cash off this and will continue to do so for the forseeable future.
Wonder how much drug stock Pelosi and Biden and the rest control? (No doubt they don't own it to avoid legal issues.)
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at August 23, 2021 06:01 AM (2GLax)
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