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January 30, 2022

Arguing with idiots: Vaccaholics Edition

Timothy Birdnow

Another tussle on Facebook.

Doug Thornbern provides us with this link:

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/we-vaccinated-4-billion-people-and/comments

This triggered a typically nasty liberal pro-vaxxer named Richard Hoffman:

I call bs Doug Thorburn.

1. Why doesn't your graph match any of the other graphs available? You've openly shared false information before and when called out on it you just had a whole host of lame excuses before running away. Why can't you back the information you spread?

2. Your chart doesn't include a source. Why not? Where does the data come from and why doesn't it match any of the other charts out there?

3. 10 billion vaccines have been administered, not just 4 billion as your chart suggests, and the death rate has dropped dramatically. Today 90% of those who die from Covid are unvaccinated. Again, why are you using an outdated and incomplete chart? My guess is because it's the only one you could find that fits your bs narrative.

4. The guy who supposedly originally shared the chart, Alex Berenstain, has been wrong about just about everything so far. Do you remember him "promising" that cases would never reach 500,000? Doh!

5. If you're right why is it that the countries that followed scientific advise like New Zealand have faired so well while countries that have been divided over what to do, like the US, have done so poorly?

Dude. You're full of sh#% and it's easy to see. Stop spreading your bs and do something meaningful with your life.

**Everyone reading this should stick around to see Ol'Thorburn's response. He'll either share more unsourced info or he'll refuse to answer and will instead point his finger at anyone else he can (usually Hilary or Obama but in this case probably Fauci or Hunter Biden.) Either way he won't be able to provide peer reviewed scientific data to support his claims because it's all been disproven.

Watch and see...

Doug replies:

Richard Hoffman https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases

I jump in:

"Today 90% of those who die from Covid are unvaccinated. " Not around the world. In case you missed it, Israel is getting creamed by Covid even though they are at 90% vaccination rates. Ditto in India.Even CNBC admits this. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/08/five-vaccinated-countries-with-high-covid-rates-rely-on-china-vaccines.htmlSee also https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/05/11/covid-surges-in-4-of-5-worlds-most-vaccinated-countries-heres-why-the-us-should-worry/ In case you missed it Israel "followed the scientific advice" but a fat lot of good it did them. And what exactly is "scientific advice" of which you speak? Ever heard of the Barrington Declaration? https://www.newsweek.com/more-10000-scientists-sign-barrington-declaration-petition-saying-current-covid-lockdowns-are-1539917 Ten thousand scientists and doctors signed it. The only reason we have this fake "consensus" is because the media refuses to report on the disagreements and refuses to interview those who think we are doing the wrong thing here. And you might want to take some exlax yourself before attacking others. Doug adds:

1. After about six months, they may well not only have no effect but negative efficacy. 2. For about six months. 3. Yes.

As a tax pro, you know what "badges of fraud" are. There a multitude here: censorship, intellectual dishonesty (countless numbers, but for example calling ivermectin, one of the most important and useful drugs ever discovered, "horse paste;" in that case, please call doxycycline "fish medicine"), the failure to require the listing of side effects (as every other Rx commercial on TV requires--a minute or so of "You might die" for every single one), the propaganda meme "safe and effective," Pfizer's ability to hide its study results for 75 years....you get the idea.

Start with, everything about this as reported on the MSM is a lie. Now, prove to me anything is truth. There ain't much.

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And meanwhile a "leaky" vaccine acts to pressure the virus into mutating. It's probably why we have so many new variants of this so quickly.

I wish it was "safe and effective" but it's not. I would add that this has become the sole program. There were a number of things that could be done to treat the sick - Hydrochloroquine with zinc, Invermectine, monoclonal antibodies, etc. but they have been discourages and sometimes banned outright in favor of the vaccine. Why? The science is actually showing these all work.

Trump, despite being overweight and eating poorly, got over Covid in just a few days thanks to monoclonal antibodies.

But there is a strange insistence everyone take this jab. It transcends science and medicine. Is it just to set the precedent that the authorities can make us do something we don't want to do, or is there something more sinister lurking about.

I don't know, but we are not being given the truth.

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