September 14, 2022
On Facebook Steven Chase made the following observation:
The judge who granted Trump's motion for a Special Master VERIFIED that it was indeed BIDEN who requested the FBI raid.
Biden and his entire staff have lied. (Pg. 2 of her ruling)
He not only knew of the raid but signed off on it.
So says the Judge, a Democrat by the way.
This led to a liberal idiot named Paul Easton to dispute Steve:
Perhaps you should actually provide the full text, pages 2 and 3, for context.
To be clear, Steve, the President requested NARA give the FBI access to the 15 boxes of records...your claim is disingenuous. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/read-the-judges-full-ruling-for-special-master-to-review-trump-documents
I reply:
Paul Easton the PBS article says nothing about any of this. Perhaps you would care to provide the relevant passages from the text?
Mr. Easton does what liberals always do - he tries to play three card monty:
Timothy Birdnow why don't you download the ruling like I did? The link is provided at the bottom of the article.
I reply:
I did and don't see where it proves Steven's comment wrong. I see you still haven't bothered to quote the pertinent passages.
He isn't happy:
I am not wasting my time. If you can't read a legal brief that is not my responsibility to help. Cheers!
My response:
Of course you aren't going to waste your time Paul Easton because it doesn't say what you are claiming it says. You seem happy to waste everyone else's time though. The brief makes it clear that Biden knew about this in advance and he o.k.'d the raid - something he lied about. Steven was correct and you are wrong here. I simply asked you to prove your point and you refuseed to do so. Where does it say that Biden didn't know about it, or that he didn't authorize the raid (and if you think he didn't I have a bridge to sell you; there is no way the FBI just raided a former President's home without an executive order.)
You are the one who came here and jumped Steven's case but you refused to provide the evidence of your case. Then you get huffy when I ask you to provide the evidence to prove your claim. You won't waste YOUR precious time copying and pasting, but you are more than happy to spend time in this discussion and link to an article that requires a link to a pdf. It's obfuscation.
And you know full well the legal brief isn't going to be more than vague about the Biden connection here, or the judge would be dismissed as partisan. You know that.
Steven jumps back in:
Thanks for the defense! Most importantly, no law enforcement agency would undertake such a serious raid without the knowledge and approval of the incumbent preside
Easton sneers:
Timothy Birdnow wrong. But ok. Enjoy the little MAGA bubble you live in.nt.
Steven Chase how is this? https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-biden-search-documents-461520270373
Timothy Birdnow Willful ignorance is a disease in your bunch. Learn to download, read and comprehend, my friend. https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-biden-search-documents-461520270373
I respond:
And this proves exactly what Paul Easton? That the National Archives was trying to get the records? We already knew that. What do you think Biden approved?
This does not speak to the judge's order or the language in that order. It is an interpretation by the AP, not the actual order, nor what the order was about. You still have done nothing to prove your case, nor have you quoted from the actual judge's order itself showing your point.
All I asked of you was to present the actual words of the ruling, something you still haven't done. And to explain how it is this does not show Biden knew about the raid in advance and lied about it and ultimately was the one who gave the go ahead?
Remember YOU are the one who came here and attacked Steven. You then complain we are wasting YOUR time when in fact it was YOU who started this. The burden of proof was and is on you, the aggressor.
You have failed to prove your point once again.The National Archives sent Trump a thank-you note for cooperating with them on June 3 - after the original request on May 12. You and the AP are playing fast and loose with the time frame here. The fact is Biden signed off on this and efforts to confuse the time frame is being done to give him plausible deniability.
Now you stop wasting MY time! You clearly are just a partisan who will defend this lawless administration at all cost. Steven said Biden knew about this in advance and approved the raid, which he clearly did. The Judge's order proves that, whether you want to admit it or not.
If you had the smoking gun evidence Steven was wrong you would have presented it. It was up to you to do so. You failed to do so hence I must conclude your point is invalid.
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