December 05, 2020
About that Vote Fraud
Tiimothy Birdnow
Saw this exchange on Facebook. Prettty good.
Ev Nelson states:
"Now, fraud occurs in every election. Anyone who argues otherwise hasn’t studied history. When it comes to fraud in major elections in the U.S. it’s NOT a question of "if†but of "how much.â€
In the case of the 2020 U.S. Presidential election it is now clear that the degree of fraud was astonishing... In the last few weeks we’ve seen:
Whistleblowers state during testimony that they witnessed:
Trucks with hundreds of thousands of ballots being driven from one state to another to deliver the ballots in a different election.
Tens if not hundreds of thousands of ballots being fed and refed into tabulating machines as much as 8 to 10 times (meaning the same ballot counts as 8 or even 10 votes).
Vote counters being told to "backdate†ballots so that the ballots were claimed to have arrive before the deadline.
The voting machine/ software used to tabulate the vote totals in at LEAST 24 states were:
Connected to the internet, allowing for outside interference.
Written in such a way that anyone can change a given ballot’s vote after it has been cast.
That at least one foreign government (China) FORMALLY owns the company that counted the ballots (there is an SEC filing of the acquisition).
Other nations (Cuba, Venezuela) have also been linked to the company.
Regardless of your political views or your desired outcome for this election, the above items alone call into question the entire election’s legitimacy.
Think it this way. Let’s say that during the 100M dash in the Olympics, the timer stopped working, the judges wore blindfolds and the camera feeds all shutdown mid-way through the race.
Would you trust or believe it if one of the racers claimed that he not only won the race despite trailing his opponent by two seconds… but that he also set a world record time? Would you even consider the race legitimate?
I believe the current rapid collapse in the $USD is telling us that the currency markets (the largest most liquid markets in the world, and most sensitive to systemic changes) believe the U.S. has lost credibility as a country on the global stage." - Graham Summers
Webster Wood responds:
Scott Webster Wood
nice list, but I notice there isn't a single link to evidence for any one of the things "we've" allegedly seen. I have already followed up on at least 2-dozen rumors about the election. Every one of them turned out not only to be bogus, but easy to dismiss and long since dismissed yet they were still being claimed 2-3 weeks after they were dismissed.
Soooo, do you have evidence for even one item of that long list of claims that is credible and not some he-said-she-said or tabloid-esc never-before-heard-of website that also includes articles on things like gay frogs and the Bilderberg house guests?
Here is a great reply:
Dean Fleming
Scott Wood and others who dismiss claims of wrongdoing....
In addition to explaining why it is some refuse to want to see and/or acknowledge any of the growing preponderance of evidence (and yes...sworn affidavits and testimony ARE evidence) that is piling up, I challenge those individuals to kindly review and formulate a detailed response to the facts presented below.
Before doing so, let’s start by asking ourselves the global question we should all be asking of one of our liberal newspapers: Their organizations particular mantra is, "Democracy Dies In Darknessâ€. So true. It also dies with lies, half truths, and suppression of opposing facts and viewpoints. The question is this: Why is it that this media source and others of its particular ilk, are the ones that refuse to present or even acknowledge anything that is in opposition to their narrative and mandated political agenda? Instead, they simply focus all of their efforts on keeping the lights turned off. Why don’t they want the lights on? The bigger question is actually why do we let them turn them off and keep them off....
Every day and night they start their broadcasts, articles, and programs by saying ALL of the accusations are false, meritless, unfounded, and not supported by any evidence whatsoever. They lie. They print and say what those controlling them dictate and they ignore or bury everything else. It’s very clear they have an agenda and it’s not telling the truth or the full story. If anyone believes main stream media is doing otherwise....you have been on the koolaid much too long or you are simply lying to yourself and others. Stop drinking for a bit and turn on the lights. It is only then that you will be able to see what is really happening. If you do, you will not be happy.
Viewing 2020 election from 30,000 feet.
Instead of getting tied up in the weeds, which is exactly where some want everyone to be, let's look at both of these issues from the 30,000 foot level.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_candidates_by_number_of_votes_received
2020 ELECTION. The big picture.
2008
Obama 69.5 mil votes.
At the time, the most votes ever for either party.
2012
Obama 66 mil votes.
2016
Clinton 66 mil votes.
It is worth flagging the fact that these Clinton and Obama 2012 and 2016 vote totals were within 60k of each other.
These are the most votes Dems could muster for 3 of the most important elections they’ve ever participated in.
They did everything they possibly could to get out the vote. These are the results: A 3 election average Dem vote of 67 mil. The 2008 vote total is only 3.5 million more than the 66 million vote totals from 2012 and 2016. Despite all of their stepped up campaigning efforts for those 3 elections, this is the very best they could manage.
Total votes for each of these years (2008, 2012, and 2016) averaged appx 129 mil.
2020
Biden appx 80mil votes.
Trump appx 74 mil
Total votes appx 154 mil.
154 million total 2020 votes is a new record. It blows the previous record away by an unbelievable 25 million votes.
Let that sink in. This is appx a 20% increase from an average that was basically flat at 129k over the previous 3 elections. Unbelievable.
All of those 3 previous elections were unequalled seminal events in our nations history. First black candidate and first woman candidate. Despite this FACT....Dem vote totals during that period ranged from 66 mil to 69.5 mil. Obama's 69.5 mil record total was garnered via the small bump in Dem total votes he received in 2008.
2020.
To believe there was no massive fraud, no tampering, no hocus pocus, no three coconut shells and a pea.....you must believe that hidin Biden crushed the Obama and Hillary numbers by appx 10 to 15 million votes. Right.....
This from a 2020 dem candidate who could not even get 50 people to show for a rally.
He did this while sheltering at home, purposely avoiding the public, being able to do little more than read from a teleprompter, and carrying a VP candidate that was much more of a liability than an asset. One who barely got 2% of her party's votes during the dem primaries.
Great team. One for the ages.
Right....
C'mon maaaaan.....
You must also buy into the fact that the 2020 overall vote total legitimately increased by an unheard of amount of 25 million more total votes. It's pretty much statistically impossible for this to have happened without a massive amount of tampering.
You must also believe that everyone registered to vote in 2020 actually voted. The numbers for registered voters vs those who actually voted are right on top of each other. In fact, it appears that votes (154 mil) exceeded registered voters (153 mil). It just doesn’t work this way. Never has...never will. There is always a large percentage of registered voters that do not vote.
Read that again:
153 million registered.
154 million voted.
Seem reasonable?
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/number-of-voters-and-voter-registration-in-thousands-as-a-share-of-the-voter-population/
People will say it is because of (legitimate?) mail in votes. They'll say it was because of early in-person voting. But....we’ve had the ability to do those things in the past. Perhaps not to the extent seen in 2020, but expecting a bump of 25 million more votes to be cast due to these items is ridiculous.
On top of this statistical improbability, the 25 million additional votes would need to have been split appx 60% for Biden and 40% for Trump. Even if 25 million additional people actually voted in 2020 (which they almost certainly did not) it is not likely it could have been split 60/40 Biden/Trump.
They'll say it was the impact of social media and kids living in their parents basements. They'll say it's because people hated Trump and voted against him. This despite the fact Trump received 11 million more votes then he did in 2016.
Keep in mind Obama’s vote total went down by 3.5 million votes for his 2nd term. This is appx a 5% drop in voter turnout.
They'll ignore statistics and the fact it is nearly impossible for these numbers to be real. Averages, means, medians, probabilities, and statistical norms are all real metrics and they all mean something tangible. When global statistics are this far out of whack....it’s a clear indication something is drastically wrong. But....they will ignore all of this because, don’t forget.....they have an agenda....
Not to leave PA out of the discussion their election results are headed to the SCOTUS. Would that be happening if there was not an abundance of credible evidence to support claims of massive amounts of fraud?
In closing. It should not matter one bit what your political persuasion is. If there was a large amount of tampering that went on, and you are an American, you should want to know the truth. If there was tampering on anywhere near the scale it appears there was....you should be outraged. If you are not appalled by this nor are you interested in uncovering the truth....you are the problem. Have a talk with the man/woman you see in the mirror every morning. If you are being honest with yourself.... you won’t like what you see.
Does anyone have a credible response that works to explain any of this besides collusion, deceit, and fraud?
If so, don’t just cherry pick one or two items and then toss out a few generalities and deflections. Hit it hard and be specific.
Turn the lights on folks. Please turn on the lights...! Our nation and our very way of life are in jeopardy if you don’t.
Saw this exchange on Facebook. Prettty good.
Ev Nelson states:
"Now, fraud occurs in every election. Anyone who argues otherwise hasn’t studied history. When it comes to fraud in major elections in the U.S. it’s NOT a question of "if†but of "how much.â€
In the case of the 2020 U.S. Presidential election it is now clear that the degree of fraud was astonishing... In the last few weeks we’ve seen:
Whistleblowers state during testimony that they witnessed:
Trucks with hundreds of thousands of ballots being driven from one state to another to deliver the ballots in a different election.
Tens if not hundreds of thousands of ballots being fed and refed into tabulating machines as much as 8 to 10 times (meaning the same ballot counts as 8 or even 10 votes).
Vote counters being told to "backdate†ballots so that the ballots were claimed to have arrive before the deadline.
The voting machine/ software used to tabulate the vote totals in at LEAST 24 states were:
Connected to the internet, allowing for outside interference.
Written in such a way that anyone can change a given ballot’s vote after it has been cast.
That at least one foreign government (China) FORMALLY owns the company that counted the ballots (there is an SEC filing of the acquisition).
Other nations (Cuba, Venezuela) have also been linked to the company.
Regardless of your political views or your desired outcome for this election, the above items alone call into question the entire election’s legitimacy.
Think it this way. Let’s say that during the 100M dash in the Olympics, the timer stopped working, the judges wore blindfolds and the camera feeds all shutdown mid-way through the race.
Would you trust or believe it if one of the racers claimed that he not only won the race despite trailing his opponent by two seconds… but that he also set a world record time? Would you even consider the race legitimate?
I believe the current rapid collapse in the $USD is telling us that the currency markets (the largest most liquid markets in the world, and most sensitive to systemic changes) believe the U.S. has lost credibility as a country on the global stage." - Graham Summers
Webster Wood responds:
Scott Webster Wood
nice list, but I notice there isn't a single link to evidence for any one of the things "we've" allegedly seen. I have already followed up on at least 2-dozen rumors about the election. Every one of them turned out not only to be bogus, but easy to dismiss and long since dismissed yet they were still being claimed 2-3 weeks after they were dismissed.
Soooo, do you have evidence for even one item of that long list of claims that is credible and not some he-said-she-said or tabloid-esc never-before-heard-of website that also includes articles on things like gay frogs and the Bilderberg house guests?
Here is a great reply:
Dean Fleming
Scott Wood and others who dismiss claims of wrongdoing....
In addition to explaining why it is some refuse to want to see and/or acknowledge any of the growing preponderance of evidence (and yes...sworn affidavits and testimony ARE evidence) that is piling up, I challenge those individuals to kindly review and formulate a detailed response to the facts presented below.
Before doing so, let’s start by asking ourselves the global question we should all be asking of one of our liberal newspapers: Their organizations particular mantra is, "Democracy Dies In Darknessâ€. So true. It also dies with lies, half truths, and suppression of opposing facts and viewpoints. The question is this: Why is it that this media source and others of its particular ilk, are the ones that refuse to present or even acknowledge anything that is in opposition to their narrative and mandated political agenda? Instead, they simply focus all of their efforts on keeping the lights turned off. Why don’t they want the lights on? The bigger question is actually why do we let them turn them off and keep them off....
Every day and night they start their broadcasts, articles, and programs by saying ALL of the accusations are false, meritless, unfounded, and not supported by any evidence whatsoever. They lie. They print and say what those controlling them dictate and they ignore or bury everything else. It’s very clear they have an agenda and it’s not telling the truth or the full story. If anyone believes main stream media is doing otherwise....you have been on the koolaid much too long or you are simply lying to yourself and others. Stop drinking for a bit and turn on the lights. It is only then that you will be able to see what is really happening. If you do, you will not be happy.
Viewing 2020 election from 30,000 feet.
Instead of getting tied up in the weeds, which is exactly where some want everyone to be, let's look at both of these issues from the 30,000 foot level.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_candidates_by_number_of_votes_received
2020 ELECTION. The big picture.
2008
Obama 69.5 mil votes.
At the time, the most votes ever for either party.
2012
Obama 66 mil votes.
2016
Clinton 66 mil votes.
It is worth flagging the fact that these Clinton and Obama 2012 and 2016 vote totals were within 60k of each other.
These are the most votes Dems could muster for 3 of the most important elections they’ve ever participated in.
They did everything they possibly could to get out the vote. These are the results: A 3 election average Dem vote of 67 mil. The 2008 vote total is only 3.5 million more than the 66 million vote totals from 2012 and 2016. Despite all of their stepped up campaigning efforts for those 3 elections, this is the very best they could manage.
Total votes for each of these years (2008, 2012, and 2016) averaged appx 129 mil.
2020
Biden appx 80mil votes.
Trump appx 74 mil
Total votes appx 154 mil.
154 million total 2020 votes is a new record. It blows the previous record away by an unbelievable 25 million votes.
Let that sink in. This is appx a 20% increase from an average that was basically flat at 129k over the previous 3 elections. Unbelievable.
All of those 3 previous elections were unequalled seminal events in our nations history. First black candidate and first woman candidate. Despite this FACT....Dem vote totals during that period ranged from 66 mil to 69.5 mil. Obama's 69.5 mil record total was garnered via the small bump in Dem total votes he received in 2008.
2020.
To believe there was no massive fraud, no tampering, no hocus pocus, no three coconut shells and a pea.....you must believe that hidin Biden crushed the Obama and Hillary numbers by appx 10 to 15 million votes. Right.....
This from a 2020 dem candidate who could not even get 50 people to show for a rally.
He did this while sheltering at home, purposely avoiding the public, being able to do little more than read from a teleprompter, and carrying a VP candidate that was much more of a liability than an asset. One who barely got 2% of her party's votes during the dem primaries.
Great team. One for the ages.
Right....
C'mon maaaaan.....
You must also buy into the fact that the 2020 overall vote total legitimately increased by an unheard of amount of 25 million more total votes. It's pretty much statistically impossible for this to have happened without a massive amount of tampering.
You must also believe that everyone registered to vote in 2020 actually voted. The numbers for registered voters vs those who actually voted are right on top of each other. In fact, it appears that votes (154 mil) exceeded registered voters (153 mil). It just doesn’t work this way. Never has...never will. There is always a large percentage of registered voters that do not vote.
Read that again:
153 million registered.
154 million voted.
Seem reasonable?
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/number-of-voters-and-voter-registration-in-thousands-as-a-share-of-the-voter-population/
People will say it is because of (legitimate?) mail in votes. They'll say it was because of early in-person voting. But....we’ve had the ability to do those things in the past. Perhaps not to the extent seen in 2020, but expecting a bump of 25 million more votes to be cast due to these items is ridiculous.
On top of this statistical improbability, the 25 million additional votes would need to have been split appx 60% for Biden and 40% for Trump. Even if 25 million additional people actually voted in 2020 (which they almost certainly did not) it is not likely it could have been split 60/40 Biden/Trump.
They'll say it was the impact of social media and kids living in their parents basements. They'll say it's because people hated Trump and voted against him. This despite the fact Trump received 11 million more votes then he did in 2016.
Keep in mind Obama’s vote total went down by 3.5 million votes for his 2nd term. This is appx a 5% drop in voter turnout.
They'll ignore statistics and the fact it is nearly impossible for these numbers to be real. Averages, means, medians, probabilities, and statistical norms are all real metrics and they all mean something tangible. When global statistics are this far out of whack....it’s a clear indication something is drastically wrong. But....they will ignore all of this because, don’t forget.....they have an agenda....
Not to leave PA out of the discussion their election results are headed to the SCOTUS. Would that be happening if there was not an abundance of credible evidence to support claims of massive amounts of fraud?
In closing. It should not matter one bit what your political persuasion is. If there was a large amount of tampering that went on, and you are an American, you should want to know the truth. If there was tampering on anywhere near the scale it appears there was....you should be outraged. If you are not appalled by this nor are you interested in uncovering the truth....you are the problem. Have a talk with the man/woman you see in the mirror every morning. If you are being honest with yourself.... you won’t like what you see.
Does anyone have a credible response that works to explain any of this besides collusion, deceit, and fraud?
If so, don’t just cherry pick one or two items and then toss out a few generalities and deflections. Hit it hard and be specific.
Turn the lights on folks. Please turn on the lights...! Our nation and our very way of life are in jeopardy if you don’t.
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