Timothy Birdnow

Here is an interesting conversation we're having at The Aviary:

Mike says:

Adding to this is that all of Russia's  equipment was used in the Crimea conflict and probably better then half the Chechnya war. When you got nukes to do your talking when no one listens you dont really need a strong army. Putin playing the nuke card when he did, did said a lot even though the Germans of all people are calling his bluff by directly supplying Ukraine. Too Little Too Late.
Regardless of Russia's military state if Putin doesnt get lynched by his own people Ukraine is doomed and they have nobody to blame but themselves.


Tim says:

I agree Mike. somebody is going down, either the Ukrainian President or Putin.

And they did lose a lot of equipment in Crimea, I'm sure.

That said, I wouldn't count the Russians out by any means. They are pretty tough soldiers and are willing to fight as long as they have to do so. But the money might run out first.

I've believed since the start of this that the goal is not to swallow the Ukraine whole, but to pick it apart and get concessions. Putin wants a guarantee Ukraine won't join NATO. He also wants a guarantee they won't mess with his pipelines. And he wants to carve off a slice along the Black Sea. All of this puts any sort of Ukrainian independence in jeopardy. Also, he wants to make them largely land-locked.

IF the West uses Ukraine as a military base of operations then he wants it neutralized as much as possible.

I suspect Putin will offer a deal soon and we'll take it. Biden will go home crowing how he kicked the Russians out of there, and it will help him politically. Putin will go home to Russia with more territory, and concessions. Everybody wins - except the average folks who saw their homes destroyed and their lives uprooted, of course.

Putin can't afford to really lose this. But then, neither can Biden.


DanaMathewson chimes in:

To complicate matters, the Ukrainians have some bad guys fighting on their side. I just encountered this article today: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/the-azov-battalion-crib-notes-on-ukraines-neo-nazi-para-militants/


Mike adds:

I dug into the Azov Brigade and what I found has me wondering who they really are and why the international leftist media overnight were calling them neo-nazis. What I found was that the number 1 enemy of the human race has his finger prints all over the Ukraine. Soros, who unlike Trump, has no problems hiding his financial records, has been ingesting the Ukraine in support in the forms of NGOs. 1995 the last time a financial disclosure report on his NGOs was released had him spending 6.7 million in Ukraine. Another reason I wonder if Ukraine might not be better off in Russia's federation.

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