January 28, 2021
We have a discussion here among us about third parties in America. Spawned by David Redfern's post, we discuss the ramifications of a shift to a conservative third party.
Bill says:
Tim replies:
Second, who cares at this point? We are going to hell whether under RINO Republicanism or the Democrats; it's just a matter of how fast we get there. There is no desire to push back against anything by the Establishment GOP. At best we gain a couple of years before the Democrats get their crazy new idea. So a third party would at minimum offer a chance to vote your conscience rather than having to hold your nose and vote for some guy who is going to move the ball left, but not as far left as the Democrat. You might lose (in fact we probably would) but at least we can lose with a clear conscience, go down swinging. Now we are losing without ever actually getting into the fray.
Another assumption I disagree with here Bill is that the Democrats will remain a united party. They are terribly fractured, and the only thing holding them together is the two party system. Fracture the GOP and how long before a lot of the radicals in the Democrats split from their party? When they see it can be done they will probably follow suit. we could wind up with as many as six parties (what the Founding Fathers envisioned, I might add) and I suspect more of them would be former Democrats than Republicans.
The fact is Bill, Albert Einstein said "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" and by that definition we are batshit crazy, because we keep sticking with the GOP and expecting it to suddenly act in our interest. Why should it? They can afford to take us for granted precisely because we have nowhere else to go. That has to change or we will see no change, and we will continue on our Sovietization of America.
I think what happened to Donald Trump, with the GOP refusing to lift a finger to help him, shows the party cannot be reformed.
Bill also added to this post the following:
Dana Mathewson adds:
And Dana, as voting drops off they Democrats will use it as an excuse to implement even more of their dirty tricks in the interest of "making everyone's vote count". It's a machine designed to give them eternal power.
Voting is now basically a suggestion.
You know, here in Missouri, which is controlled by Republicans, we passed a constitutional amendment to not authorize in any way the Real I.D. act. When the Feds said they would ban travel from Missouri if the state didn't "comply" the state legislature overruled the referendum and implemented the act. What was the point of having the referendum in the first place, if the legislature was going to crumble? I dare the Feds to stop an entire state from getting on airplanes based on a coercive law like that! Missouri should have made a major legal challenge, but they preferred the easy path. Now I have to get a real I.D. to fly to Nashville next fall for my nephew's wedding.
We need men of principle, but have none
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