December 28, 2022

Shapiro on Ukraine

Timothy Birdnow

I've never been overly impressed with Ben Shapiro, but he's right here by and large:

Ben Shapiro

@benshapiro

Dec 22
Ukraine is singularly interested in pushing Russia completely out of Ukraine, including Crimea; we are interested in upholding NATO deterrence, preventing Russian escalation, standing back China, and yes, preventing Russia's absolute collapse.
We have achieved most of our goals; Ukraine has not achieved its goals yet. This means we are eager to bring Russia to the table, where Ukraine is less eager. Ukraine has no incentive to end the war short of absolute Russian surrender.
The United States has every interest in ending the war in a negotiated line that will undoubtedly fall short of Ukrainian expectations. This means that the United States must (1) give Ukraine aid to push the Russians hard and prevent the internal collapse of the country...
and (2) make clear to Putin behind closed doors that a negotiated solution is available. This will also mean that at some point in the near future, Biden will have to be the bad guy to Zelensky and tell him "no."
The question is whether Biden is willing to do that, or we just keep doing (1) ad infinitum, with no actual view as to America's end goal independent of Ukraine's. I have serious doubts Biden is willing to take the hit of being the bad guy here. And herein lies the problem.
None of this analysis requires that we ignore the very serious problems within Ukraine, ranging from corruption to questions of religious discrimination to use of Nazi-ideology-o rigin battalions like Azov. Foreign policy is constantly about choices between ugly alternatives.

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1 That's delusional. We are interested in "preventing Russia's absolute collapse" and are eager to "bring Russia to the table" for bargaining? Really? The whole purpose of the US spending billions over eight years arming and training Ukraine's military was to bring about the breakup of the Russian Federation and regime change to depose Putin. It is the US that is preventing negotiations which Russia is repeatedly offering. Why is anyone giving airtime to this ignorant gasbag?

Posted by: Bill H at December 29, 2022 12:00 AM (Q7br2)

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Posted by: smmheart at December 29, 2022 02:25 AM (XQlzy)

3 That's the by and large Bill. Shapiro is dead wrong in that part of his assessment. We've been gunning for Russia for some time, no question.

And there is zero effort to bring Russia to any table. This is about regime change in Russia and the installation of a sychophant there.

Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at December 29, 2022 08:37 AM (XEkek)

4 So, if he's 180 degrees wrong on one aspect of his diatribe, why do you assume he's right on anything else? He has demonstrated with the wrongness of one statement that he has no idea what the heck he is talking about and is nothing more than a gasbag.

Posted by: Bill H at December 29, 2022 09:53 AM (Q7br2)

5 Have you never been wrong on a subjecct Bill?  Does that invalidate everything you say?

Here is a whopper of a blunder by Isaac Newton. https://apnews.com/article/7dbbc6050ecfa8d776de37a728de401b  Does that invalidate Newton's research?

And there was Einstein's "biggest blunder" the Cosmological Constant. Einstein called it that himself.

Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at December 30, 2022 09:15 AM (fDRfC)

6 I should have been more specific and said that he knows nothing about that subject. I've enjoyed many of Shapiro's talks and think fairly highly of him. His proclivity for pretending expertise on subjects he knows nothing about annoys me. And no, I don't expound on subjects I know little or nothing about.

Posted by: Bill H at December 30, 2022 10:12 AM (Q7br2)

7 Well, I agree Shapiro is a know-it-all. And I've never been overly impressed by him. He's smart, but thinks he's smarter than he is, and he covers by speaking very fast Woody Allen style. But that doesn't make him right.

Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at December 31, 2022 08:46 AM (y7Jiw)

8 What you mentioned reflects the political and complexity of the situation in Ukraine and in relation to Russia. That's an interesting perspective on the violence and political goals of many countries. Below is further analysis and commentary on the proposals and situations you mentioned: Ukraine's Interest in Pushing Russia: It's important to have an interest in pushing Russia out of Ukraine. The presence of Russian offensives in Ukraine and related events have created a geographic and political conflict. The ability to maintain relations between ASEAN countries and countries for economic development and regional stability will play a key role in shaping the direction of relations in Ukraine in the future. NATO Defense Support: Supporting NATO to prevent Russia's escalation is critical to maintaining stability in Ukraine and the region as a whole. Having military alliances and mutual support in alternative ways will help the force to counter conflict and maintain peace in the region. Standing up for China: Supporting China can have political and economic implications. The emergence of China as an influential figure in Ukraine and the ASEAN region could change the political landscape in the region. any support Care should be taken to ensure that unforeseen consequences do not occur. Enthusiasm for bringing Russia to the negotiating table: Bringing Russia to the negotiating process is complex and requires careful consideration. In addition to military and economic pressure There are also issues related to media control and political control in Russia. Good decisions should be made considering the potential risks and consequences. Guidelines for negotiation and conflict resolution: Negotiation and conflict resolution in this situation must consider the content and details of the negotiation. It is important to be impartial and in the habit of listening to the opinions and reasons of your opponent. Clear goals and consistent benefits will help the negotiating process be effective. It boils down to the question of whether Biden intends to pursue this implication. It is a matter that cannot be answered as it is complex and depends on the circumstances and risks present at the time. However, it is important to maintain peace and security in the region at all times. More content about PG SLOT in the following articles: PGSLOT also represents another important point in this context. It is one of the most popular online gaming platforms today. The interest in PGSLOT shows that people are keen on online entertainment and leisure gaming. In addition to politics and international situations. The strength of the online gaming industry is also one of the ways that reflects the changes in lifestyle and behavior of people nowadays. Supporting and playing online games affects various aspects. Whether it's an online economy social networking and entertainment interests of the people With all these considerations The support of online gaming and the use of the PGSLOT platform may affect the current lifestyle and promotion of online activities. However, showing concern for politics and international situations whether it is related to supporting China Joining NATO or negotiating on a political front It is still important and requires attention. Therefore, it is important to consider both perspectives in order to understand the full picture of the current complex situation.

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