May 04, 2025
Next Pope a CONSERVATIVE?!
Timothy Birdnow
Could we end up with a conservative Pope? Apparently the leftists in the church are sweating the prospect.
Progressive Cardinals sweating bullets. Ready for a conservative Pope? It could happen…
From Revolver:
However, the good news is that this message of unity could do more than just shift the mood; it could deliver the next conservative pope and bring the Church back to its traditional roots.
The New York Times:
Even before Pope Francis was entombed in a Rome basilica on Saturday, conservative cardinals who felt his pontificate was a divisive disaster that endangered the church’s traditions had begun politicking to sway the conclave electing the next pope.
They have a seductively simple slogan: unity.
The conservative Cardinals are coming together on a mission to take back the Church from the progressives. The good news is that they’ve thought long and hard about this, and they believe their message of unity will gently steer the newer cardinals, who don’t fully understand "Vatican speak,” into voting their way.
It might not have looked like it from the outside, but during Francis’ reign, the conservative cardinals actually held onto an impressive amount of power. A lot of that was thanks to the behind-the-scenes influence of Pope Benedict and Cardinal Sarah, who kept Francis on a shorter leash than most people realize. The New York Times piece goes on:
But unity was central to Francis’ vision of the church, too. He just saw it differently. In 2021, Francis suppressed celebration of the Latin Mass, adored by Cardinal Sarah and other traditionalists, because he argued it was being used by ideologically motivated Catholics to undermine church unity.
That decision only emboldened conservative criticism of Francis as an authoritarian. "That is his style, to divide,” Cardinal Müller said on Thursday in his apartment. "All dictators are dividing.”
As Francis entered the later phase of his pontificate, his progressive supporters expected him to start making concrete changes. Instead, concerns about church unity seemed to prompt him to punt.
When bishops from remote areas in South America came to the Vatican in 2019 for a major meeting desired by Francis, they recommended that, to address a shortage of clergy, the pope should allow older married Catholic men in good standing to become priests.
Francis gave every indication that this practical solution was what he wanted, but around that time Cardinal Sarah coauthored a book with the retired Benedict reaffirming priestly celibacy.
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Personally I have my doubts; Francis still managed to stack the deck with his own people, and removed many of the best conservatives from positions of authority. But in the end God can and will intervene, so we can hope this is what is occurring now.The Catholic Church CANNOT survive another Pope Francis.
The article goes on to catalogue a list of potential pontiffs with an analysis of each candidate.
It's encouraging and I suggest everyone read it.
Could we end up with a conservative Pope? Apparently the leftists in the church are sweating the prospect.
Progressive Cardinals sweating bullets. Ready for a conservative Pope? It could happen…
From Revolver:
However, the good news is that this message of unity could do more than just shift the mood; it could deliver the next conservative pope and bring the Church back to its traditional roots.
The New York Times:
Even before Pope Francis was entombed in a Rome basilica on Saturday, conservative cardinals who felt his pontificate was a divisive disaster that endangered the church’s traditions had begun politicking to sway the conclave electing the next pope.
They have a seductively simple slogan: unity.
The conservative Cardinals are coming together on a mission to take back the Church from the progressives. The good news is that they’ve thought long and hard about this, and they believe their message of unity will gently steer the newer cardinals, who don’t fully understand "Vatican speak,” into voting their way.
It might not have looked like it from the outside, but during Francis’ reign, the conservative cardinals actually held onto an impressive amount of power. A lot of that was thanks to the behind-the-scenes influence of Pope Benedict and Cardinal Sarah, who kept Francis on a shorter leash than most people realize. The New York Times piece goes on:
But unity was central to Francis’ vision of the church, too. He just saw it differently. In 2021, Francis suppressed celebration of the Latin Mass, adored by Cardinal Sarah and other traditionalists, because he argued it was being used by ideologically motivated Catholics to undermine church unity.
That decision only emboldened conservative criticism of Francis as an authoritarian. "That is his style, to divide,” Cardinal Müller said on Thursday in his apartment. "All dictators are dividing.”
As Francis entered the later phase of his pontificate, his progressive supporters expected him to start making concrete changes. Instead, concerns about church unity seemed to prompt him to punt.
When bishops from remote areas in South America came to the Vatican in 2019 for a major meeting desired by Francis, they recommended that, to address a shortage of clergy, the pope should allow older married Catholic men in good standing to become priests.
Francis gave every indication that this practical solution was what he wanted, but around that time Cardinal Sarah coauthored a book with the retired Benedict reaffirming priestly celibacy.
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Personally I have my doubts; Francis still managed to stack the deck with his own people, and removed many of the best conservatives from positions of authority. But in the end God can and will intervene, so we can hope this is what is occurring now.The Catholic Church CANNOT survive another Pope Francis.
The article goes on to catalogue a list of potential pontiffs with an analysis of each candidate.
It's encouraging and I suggest everyone read it.
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Much in the same way that American voters drove the current Conservative "push" away from control of the leftists with the election of Donald Trump to a second Presidency? Many of us believe that God had a hand in that, too. Or should I have said "Many of us are certain that God had a hand in that, too?"
Just as our Democrats had taken our politics too far to the left, many Catholics believe that Francis and Co. took Catholic doctrine too far to the left, and that it's definitely time for both pendulums to swing to the right again.
Just as our Democrats had taken our politics too far to the left, many Catholics believe that Francis and Co. took Catholic doctrine too far to the left, and that it's definitely time for both pendulums to swing to the right again.
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at May 04, 2025 11:46 PM (1KBQw)
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A good analogy Dana, although there is a difference insofar as the Catholic Church isn't a democratic system but an oligarchic monarchy and Francis had systemattically purged those who opposed him and his agenda. But apparently there is enormous pressure on the middle of the road types. Good to see.
In the end God will prevail, no matter the schemes of the Enemy.
In the end God will prevail, no matter the schemes of the Enemy.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at May 05, 2025 06:42 AM (G5fdi)
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Well, considering it's the same enemy in both cases, Tim...
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at May 06, 2025 12:40 AM (1KBQw)
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