February 21, 2019
Big Brother can now seize your DNA
Timothy Birdnow
The eyes of Big Brother continue to expand their gaze. Now police will collect DNA for a federal database to better keep tabs on everyone.
From the article:
The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution states:
Isn't a person's DNA part of their "person"? Isn't it an "effect"? In point of fact, anyone can be "arrested" for the most minor of violations; speeding, jay walking, cutting those "do not remove under penalty of law" tags, and now they are forced to hand over the very essence fo their bodies. Is this what the Founding fathers had in mind?
Interestingly enough, the Chinese are doing the exact same thing - to keep tabs on her citizens. How is this different?
I am not opposed to holding DNA any more than I am opposed to having a fingerprint file, but it should be something collected only in certain, well regulated circumstances, ideally after someone has been charged with a crime, not simply arrested. People get arrested for a lot of things when they haven't done anything. I remember a few years ago a lot of people got arrested at the St. Louis Mardi Gras when things got out of hand. Do they deserve to have their DNA forcibly removed and held by the state?
This is clearly the road to tyranny.
And of all people, the FBI is going to hold this data! You know, the same guys who have spent the last two years trying to frame Donald Trump! Why on Earth would Trump sign this kind of bill?
People were very angry when they learned the Bush Administration was collecting metadata on telephone calls made to suspected terrorists overseas. Yet this thing snuck through with nary a comment. Strange.
Anyone remember the row about the NSA data center in Utah? Conservatives were horrified that the National Securiity Agency aka No Such Agency was building a massive center to collect information on Americans. Yet now it is forgotten.
Will this DNA database wind up here?
If Barack Obama had signed this our side would have been outraged. We should be furious at the Orange Peril for this. He said in numerous speeches "America will never be a socialist country" . No; we are now just a plain old fascist country. Gee - it's good to go Brown....
The eyes of Big Brother continue to expand their gaze. Now police will collect DNA for a federal database to better keep tabs on everyone.
From the article:
President Donald Trump has signed the Rapid DNA Act into law which means the police can routinely take DNA samples from people who are arrested but not yet convicted of a crime.
The law, which was signed in 2017 and comes into effect this year, will require several states to connect Rapid DNA machines to Codis – the national DNA database controlled by the FBI.
These machines, which are portable and about the same size as a desktop printer, are expected to become as routine a process as taking fingerprints.
But John W. Whitehead from The Rutherford Institute believes it is a sinister development which will make everyone a suspect.
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Speaking to Daily Star Online, he said: "The fact of the matter is that these machines are not full-proof.
"But we could look at a situation in which someone could be arrested, have their mouth swabbed and then be charged within hours after generating a DNA profile.
"We are looking at the erosion of the concept of innocent before proven guilty because it will allow police to go on fishing expeditions.
"When you sit on a park bench, you shed DNA. That is now up for grabs by police who could swab it, and run it through a DNA database. If they find a match, or if misconduct occurred anywhere in the vicinity where your DNA was found, you might find yourself charged with a crime you never committed merely because you happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The law, which was signed in 2017 and comes into effect this year, will require several states to connect Rapid DNA machines to Codis – the national DNA database controlled by the FBI.
These machines, which are portable and about the same size as a desktop printer, are expected to become as routine a process as taking fingerprints.
But John W. Whitehead from The Rutherford Institute believes it is a sinister development which will make everyone a suspect.
Related Articles
Speaking to Daily Star Online, he said: "The fact of the matter is that these machines are not full-proof.
"But we could look at a situation in which someone could be arrested, have their mouth swabbed and then be charged within hours after generating a DNA profile.
"We are looking at the erosion of the concept of innocent before proven guilty because it will allow police to go on fishing expeditions.
"When you sit on a park bench, you shed DNA. That is now up for grabs by police who could swab it, and run it through a DNA database. If they find a match, or if misconduct occurred anywhere in the vicinity where your DNA was found, you might find yourself charged with a crime you never committed merely because you happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution states:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Isn't a person's DNA part of their "person"? Isn't it an "effect"? In point of fact, anyone can be "arrested" for the most minor of violations; speeding, jay walking, cutting those "do not remove under penalty of law" tags, and now they are forced to hand over the very essence fo their bodies. Is this what the Founding fathers had in mind?
Interestingly enough, the Chinese are doing the exact same thing - to keep tabs on her citizens. How is this different?
I am not opposed to holding DNA any more than I am opposed to having a fingerprint file, but it should be something collected only in certain, well regulated circumstances, ideally after someone has been charged with a crime, not simply arrested. People get arrested for a lot of things when they haven't done anything. I remember a few years ago a lot of people got arrested at the St. Louis Mardi Gras when things got out of hand. Do they deserve to have their DNA forcibly removed and held by the state?
This is clearly the road to tyranny.
And of all people, the FBI is going to hold this data! You know, the same guys who have spent the last two years trying to frame Donald Trump! Why on Earth would Trump sign this kind of bill?
People were very angry when they learned the Bush Administration was collecting metadata on telephone calls made to suspected terrorists overseas. Yet this thing snuck through with nary a comment. Strange.
Anyone remember the row about the NSA data center in Utah? Conservatives were horrified that the National Securiity Agency aka No Such Agency was building a massive center to collect information on Americans. Yet now it is forgotten.
Will this DNA database wind up here?
If Barack Obama had signed this our side would have been outraged. We should be furious at the Orange Peril for this. He said in numerous speeches "America will never be a socialist country" . No; we are now just a plain old fascist country. Gee - it's good to go Brown....
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