January 28, 2020
Since a number of American citizens have been shown to have been injured by Iranian missile attacks last month, the need to retaliate in some fashion is obvious.
I think I've found the perfect target.
Looks like our buddies in Iran are planning to try to launch a satellite. We know where the launch site is. Perhaps we should take some sort of action here?
Seems like a logical target to me.
Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2020 04:48 PM (vMiSr)
Something like this would get their attention for sure but would not "start a war."
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at January 28, 2020 09:59 PM (wp4a2)
Posted by: Bill H at January 28, 2020 11:55 PM (vMiSr)
We are already in a state of war with Iran, just our side has refused to admit it - even to ourselves.
That's not to say we should blow up the whole region, but destroying their rocket makes the point quite plain.
I really don't understand how you can see us as the bully here; we killed their terror master in retaliation for attacking our embassy, then they hurt a bunch of our service personnel with rocket attacks. In all instances it was the Iranians who were the aggressors.
If we fail to respond then Iran knows we are weak. Read what Osama Bin Laden said; he decided he could defeat us because we pulled out whenever challenged, from Beirut, from Somalia, etc. Muslims have a different view of strength and weakness than do we. They have to know we aren't going to take it or they'll keep pushing.
That's why a surgical strike is better than either a full blown attack or doing nothing. It puts the onus back on them.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at January 29, 2020 07:05 AM (Dzyvy)
As you know from the body of my comments, I am a veteran, support this nation's security needs and am disgusted by the Democrat's freak show. But I do not believe that force begets anything but more and bigger force, and an international posture of this nation as the world's biggest thug is neither becoming nor useful.
Either declare war and fight to the death, or keep your sword in its sheath.
Posted by: Bill H at January 29, 2020 09:48 AM (vMiSr)
And the government of Prince Moussadek was trying to nationalize the oil industry aka seize all the assets of private companies. The British were going to be particularly hurt by this. This was not OUR seizing the oil industry but our keeping it open.
We didn't impose anything on the Iranian People; many were very happy about our intervention.
And after seizure of our embassy in 1979 we did not retaliate - which led to the Beirut Marine barracks bombing. In fact, through Hizbollah Iran has attacked us repeatedly and we have largely done nothing.
The sanctions are in place because Iran refuses to give up their nuclear weapons program, and they refuse to stop funding terrorism. Both directly affect us. We should have put crippling sanctions in place long ago. The only reason we didn't was because we feared what would happen to world oil markets.
Bill, Iran has picked most of the fights over the years.
I agree we should declare wars, but we also cannot allow certain things - like the Iranians to develop atomic weapons and delivery systems. And you don't say "well, ours are better" because they are the types who will use theirs and dare us to do the same, knowing we are too weak. That's why we can't let them get away with firing missiles at our military in the first place.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at January 30, 2020 08:21 AM (HzfKD)
He tells us that the current status after that latest Iran missile strike reveals that "it is undeniable that all the US/NATO/Israeli forces in the region are now exposed like sitting ducks" because despite multiple warnings that they were coming, "not a single Iranian missile was intercepted, that the missiles all landed with very high accuracy, that the U.S. base itself suffered extensive damage." Looks like we learned a valuable lesson and decided to leave well enough alone. Read the entire article; is is highly informative.
Bear in mind that we have been in Afghanistan for eighteen years now and have never been within shouting distance of anything that even approximately resembles victory. There is no real reason for anyone to think that we can win a war anywhere. We can cause a lot of destruction. more than any other nation in the world by far. But we cannot win wars.
Posted by: Bill H at January 30, 2020 09:40 AM (vMiSr)
Yeah; we need to learn to actually fight and win wars, not keep playing with "police actions" and "winning hearts and minds". You have to win the actual war first.
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at January 30, 2020 10:03 AM (w2HfX)
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