October 09, 2017
I leave further interpretations of the folly to this lesbian "Bishop" to the Christian readers and writers in this group
Jack
http://theresurgent.com/united-methodist-church-lesbian-bishop-goes-after-jesus/?mc_cid=69ba79bb94&mc_eid=fcf10112cd
United Methodist Church Lesbian Bishop Goes After Jesus
By Peter Heck | October 8, 2017, 11:45am | @peterheck
In another banner moment for the United Methodist Church in America, the woman they elevated to the pious level of "bishop†despite her open involvement in a lesbian partnership, has decided to remake Jesus in her own image and then market this false god to her flock.
Read it all.
This from Fay Voshell:
Better theologians than I have answered the question of Christ's eternality as coupled with his humanity.
The answer from all orthodox theologians who actually believe Christ's claims to be God Himself is that Jesus temporarily subordinated himself to the Father in order to accomplish our salvation. At no time was he, is he, will he be less than God. All that was "learned" during his incarnate state was known by him within his position in the Godhead from all eternity.
We humans mistake his immense condescension to us as his being like us in our time bound state and mortal thinking. Jesus took on human form but at no time every claimed anything less than equality with the Father. That is why the contemporary hierarchy considered him a blasphemer worthy of death.
The Methodist "bishop" sees Christ as merely human, and thus divorced from the Trinitarian Godhead. She sees him as a slightly different version of herself, and projects on to him her desire to see herself reflected in him, as having a faint stamp of LGBT divinity--sort of like a saint of the LGBT movement. She has made her own idol in her own image and worships it--not the Christ of the scriptures.
As C.S. Lewis wrote, Christ did not leave the option of being merely human open to us. Either he was as crazy as the man who believes he's a poached egg, or he really is the Son of God.
Here is the Lewis quote in full.
"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him [that is, Christ]: ‘I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept His claim to be God.’ That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic–on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg–or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse…. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come up with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.â€
a note from tim
Her view is openly heretical and completely extra-Biblical. Jesus forgave sexual sins always with the caveat - "Go and sin no more". He never said it was o.k. to violate the Old Testament prohibitions. In fact, He said "I have come not to change the law but to fulfill it." Try to twist it as you may you cannot make a square peg fit into a round hole. Forgiveness, which is what this dishonest woman is using, only works when there is repentence.
The Old Testament is clear on homosexuality being an abomination. So is the New. The fact is, Jesus did not evolve in His thinking any more than does God Almighty, because the two are one. Jesus forgave but did not excuse. People don't like that because it necessitates they change their behavior and they don't want to do that.
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