July 23, 2022

China's Bursting Bubble

Timothy Birdnow

Contributor Bill and I had a good conversation about the prospects of China, and contributor Steven Schueler chimed in to me privately.

Steve replies:

China's working age population is shrinking now. China’s working-age population peaked in 2014 and is projected to shrink to less than one third of that peak by 2100.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/china-population-to-shrink-for-1st-time-in-60-yrs-what-it-means-for-world-122053000429_1.html

The debt 'bomb' is caused in great part by the Chinese property bubble being propped by shoddy construction with a pretty facade. By the time 2 years has passed, the buildings begin falling apart, investors sell at the inflated price, buy new similar shoddy buildings, rinse and repeat. In 5 years the first round of buildings is approaching valueless, and the businesses and tenants are moving on to new flashy digs with same inherent basic flaws.

Tim adds:

Good points Steven Schueler! Years ago I was in a discussion with some young conservatives about the One Child policy and I half-jokingly pointed out that China was going to be a nation of only children and boys, and that a sex-maddened population would go to war to find brides for themselves. It looks like I wasn't far off on that! The One Child policy clearly is at the core of the Chinese economic woes. They are seeing a drop in population (as planned) but now nobody can cover their debt. Depopulation does that. In Europe they are importing Middle Easterners to fill the gap left from fewer taxpayers paying for the heavy social programs, and China won't do the same because then they would no longer be Chinese. So they are in a huge catch 22. Your point about the shoddy workmanship making real estate lose value is a great point, one I'd not thought of. I am convinced China will fade over the next fifty years. Sadly, so will we. Who will take over is anybody's guess at the moment. Eastern Europe? India? Brazil (nah.)

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1 Tanks are being put on the streets in China to protect the banks.

This is because the Henan branch of the Bank of China declaring that people's savings in their branch are now 'investment products' and can't be withdrawn.

  They are also claiming that the banks are upgrading their computer systems. Meanwhile the Chinese people are revolting by refusing to pay the mortgages on their state owned lands. Most of these mortgage holders are farmers.

 Im sure this will all be cleared up with a cultural revolution in the near future.

Posted by: Mike at July 23, 2022 02:59 PM (ILoT1)

2 AND... Biden, Yellen and Co. are watching closely to see how they manage to do it.

Posted by: Dana Mathewson at July 23, 2022 09:21 PM (hDkRW)

3 Bank runs in China Mike? Hadn't heard about that.

Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at July 25, 2022 08:04 AM (w0eY8)

4 No doubt. China has become the model for American government and no doubt they are eagerly taking notes Dana.

Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at July 25, 2022 08:06 AM (w0eY8)

5 I'd think that China's financial problems are due to their being a Communist country, where men, rather than events, control the economy. And as such, they are eventually doomed -- just as we are, for the same reason.

Posted by: Dana Mathewson at July 25, 2022 10:38 PM (rDOKo)

6 I've always said that myself Dana. They will eventually fall for the same reason the Soviet Union did. They have instituted limited capitalism just as Lenin did with the New Economy Program, which saved the USSR for a time. But they both have the same intent and that makes for a very inefficient economy in the end.

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