September 22, 2021
Harris Wrong on Global Warming
Timothy Birdnow
Kamala Harris posted about Global Warming. Heavenward Heels Harris had this to say:
Chester McAteer had retorts:
Think about this for just a moment, at the end of 2017 researchers discovered that the island of Zhokhov, in the high Arctic was forested with a species of birch trees just 9000 years ago until about 4000 years ago when the climate became so cold that nothing grew on the island. Not only that but the now uninhabitable island was inhabited by humans who enjoyed temperatures at least 6°C hotter than current temperatures in the high Arctic. An interesting point is that the humans hunted Polar Bears, Seals and Walrus in an Arctic that was almost free of sea ice for most of the year. Oh, the poor polar bears! They have been around for an estimated 1.7 million years and survived every climate whether warm or cold. Does that raise any questions in your mind given the current ideas about global warming?
Temperatures peaked between 7800 and 8000 BC years ago, the period is known as the Holocene Optimal because temperatures were ideal for all plant life, animal and sea life, but since the peak temperatures they have been falling to the point that our temperatures today are closer to those during the period immediately after the end of the last ice age than to those of the peak during the Holocene Maximum.
From the peak temperatures of the Holocene Optimal they dropped to the Minoan Warming Period, then cooler to the Roman Warming Period. During the Roman Warming temperatures were high enough for the Romans to import ancient Mediterranean wine grape vines and cultivate them in the northern part of Britain, not only that but there is evidence that Mediterranean wine grape vines were cultivated in Scandinavia and Northern Russia. That's impossible in today's cold temperatures.
After the Roman Warming Period came the Medieval Warming Period, it was so warm during that time the Vikings colonized Greenland and thrived, importing ancient European Barley, they grew fruit trees, many of the roots can be found in Viking graves and warm weather vegetables until once again it became too cold and they starved. Few realize that most of the Glaciers were gone or greatly reduced during the Holocene Optimal until they began to greatly advance during the Little Ice Age.
Another thing to think about is two years ago researchers found another of the 8 USAF planes that made an emergency landing on Greenland during WWII in 1942, it was buried under 340 feet of snowpack ice. There was also one found in 1995 under 268 feet of snowpack ice, prior to that one was found in 1988 under 240 feet of snowpack ice. Now think about the fact that in the last 77 years, during the period we are told has been one of the greatest warming of the climate, 340 feet of snowpack ice has accumulated over Greenland. Absolutely none of this had to do with the Trace gas CO2 which, throughout the geological record, has always tracked temperature increases, not led them.
Antarctica, for instance, contains most of the world's ice, if it didn't put on one more inch of ice each year, it would take 250,000 years for it to be ice free. But it accumulates far more ice than it loses each year.
Greenland did indeed lose a lot of ice last year, in fact it loses a great deal of ice every year and has for thousands of years. The Denmark Ice Tracker reports that while Greenland lost 500 gigatons it gained far more than it lost, as it does every year. Even at that rate, if it lost that much without ever gaining more ice it's been estimated that it would take 12,000 years for it to be ice free. Plus, Greenland, like the Arctic and Antarctica have, it's been recently discovered, massive sub-glacial and submarine volcanic and thermal vent activity contributing to ice loss.
For the fifth year in a row, Greenland's largest Glacier, Jakobshavan Glacier, which was once the fastest retreating Glacier in the world, is now rapidly advancing. The Russian glacier Vavilov, once growing 60 feet a year is now growing 82 feet a day. New Zealand reports that all 58 of their Glaciers are now growing.
NASA reported as far back as 2015 that the ice gain in Antarctica is also far more than the ice loss.
Since a low ice extent in the Arctic in 2012, NASAs MODIS has shown enormous ice extent for the last 5 years, so the evidence is very different than seems to be publicized.
Hey Kamakaze, heres a bit more data for you, certain to be ignored by the person that writes this tripe in your name:
July 14, 1936, Illinois and Ind. were 114F.
Iowa and Wisc. were 113F.
Missouri was 112F, Minn. and Ohio were 110F.
Michigan was a nice, cool 108F during the same period!🙄
Kamala Harris posted about Global Warming. Heavenward Heels Harris had this to say:
The climate crisis is making extreme heat more severe. This summer more than six in 10 Americans endured a multi-day heat wave. Today, we announced a new interagency response to protect our workers and communities.
Extreme heat affects millions of workers, including farm, construction, and factory workers. It also disproportionately threatens the lives of our children, seniors, low-income communities, and communities of color. This response will include U.S. Department of Labor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), Department of Homeland Security, & U.S. Department of Agriculture working together to reduce heat-related illness, protect public health, and support the economy.
Extreme heat affects millions of workers, including farm, construction, and factory workers. It also disproportionately threatens the lives of our children, seniors, low-income communities, and communities of color. This response will include U.S. Department of Labor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), Department of Homeland Security, & U.S. Department of Agriculture working together to reduce heat-related illness, protect public health, and support the economy.
Chester McAteer had retorts:
Really? I strongly suggest you look up the The period between the late
20s through the 40s. Now this graph was on the EPA website but I'm sure
it has been either taken down or altered to fit the narrative you are
pushing.
Of course, the narrative doesn't really fit the Paleoclimatolog
Of course, the narrative doesn't really fit the Paleoclimatolog
Think about this for just a moment, at the end of 2017 researchers discovered that the island of Zhokhov, in the high Arctic was forested with a species of birch trees just 9000 years ago until about 4000 years ago when the climate became so cold that nothing grew on the island. Not only that but the now uninhabitable island was inhabited by humans who enjoyed temperatures at least 6°C hotter than current temperatures in the high Arctic. An interesting point is that the humans hunted Polar Bears, Seals and Walrus in an Arctic that was almost free of sea ice for most of the year. Oh, the poor polar bears! They have been around for an estimated 1.7 million years and survived every climate whether warm or cold. Does that raise any questions in your mind given the current ideas about global warming?
Temperatures peaked between 7800 and 8000 BC years ago, the period is known as the Holocene Optimal because temperatures were ideal for all plant life, animal and sea life, but since the peak temperatures they have been falling to the point that our temperatures today are closer to those during the period immediately after the end of the last ice age than to those of the peak during the Holocene Maximum.
From the peak temperatures of the Holocene Optimal they dropped to the Minoan Warming Period, then cooler to the Roman Warming Period. During the Roman Warming temperatures were high enough for the Romans to import ancient Mediterranean wine grape vines and cultivate them in the northern part of Britain, not only that but there is evidence that Mediterranean wine grape vines were cultivated in Scandinavia and Northern Russia. That's impossible in today's cold temperatures.
After the Roman Warming Period came the Medieval Warming Period, it was so warm during that time the Vikings colonized Greenland and thrived, importing ancient European Barley, they grew fruit trees, many of the roots can be found in Viking graves and warm weather vegetables until once again it became too cold and they starved. Few realize that most of the Glaciers were gone or greatly reduced during the Holocene Optimal until they began to greatly advance during the Little Ice Age.
Another thing to think about is two years ago researchers found another of the 8 USAF planes that made an emergency landing on Greenland during WWII in 1942, it was buried under 340 feet of snowpack ice. There was also one found in 1995 under 268 feet of snowpack ice, prior to that one was found in 1988 under 240 feet of snowpack ice. Now think about the fact that in the last 77 years, during the period we are told has been one of the greatest warming of the climate, 340 feet of snowpack ice has accumulated over Greenland. Absolutely none of this had to do with the Trace gas CO2 which, throughout the geological record, has always tracked temperature increases, not led them.
Antarctica, for instance, contains most of the world's ice, if it didn't put on one more inch of ice each year, it would take 250,000 years for it to be ice free. But it accumulates far more ice than it loses each year.
Greenland did indeed lose a lot of ice last year, in fact it loses a great deal of ice every year and has for thousands of years. The Denmark Ice Tracker reports that while Greenland lost 500 gigatons it gained far more than it lost, as it does every year. Even at that rate, if it lost that much without ever gaining more ice it's been estimated that it would take 12,000 years for it to be ice free. Plus, Greenland, like the Arctic and Antarctica have, it's been recently discovered, massive sub-glacial and submarine volcanic and thermal vent activity contributing to ice loss.
For the fifth year in a row, Greenland's largest Glacier, Jakobshavan Glacier, which was once the fastest retreating Glacier in the world, is now rapidly advancing. The Russian glacier Vavilov, once growing 60 feet a year is now growing 82 feet a day. New Zealand reports that all 58 of their Glaciers are now growing.
NASA reported as far back as 2015 that the ice gain in Antarctica is also far more than the ice loss.
Since a low ice extent in the Arctic in 2012, NASAs MODIS has shown enormous ice extent for the last 5 years, so the evidence is very different than seems to be publicized.
Heat
Waves... LOL, This has been one of the mildest summers in the South
that I can recall in all of my 60+ years, but let's go back and look at
the record shall we Kamakaze Harris?
1540 European drought - Extreme drought and heatwave lasting 11 months in Europe.
July 1757 heatwave – Europe, hottest summer in 500 years.
1896 Eastern North America heat wave – killed 1,500 people in August 1896.
1900 – historical heatwave of the center of Argentina between the first eight days of February 1900 known as "the week of fire" affected the city of Buenos Aires and Rosario with temperatures of up to 37 °C (99 °F) but with a very high index of humidity that elevated the sensation of heat to 49 °C (120 °F) severely affecting the health of people causing at least more than 478 fatalities.
1901 – 1901 eastern United States heat wave killed 9,500 in the Eastern United States.
1906 – during the 1906 United Kingdom heat wave which began in August and lasted into September broke numerous records. On September 2 temperatures reached 35.6 °C (96.1 °F), which still holds the September record, however some places beat their local record during September 1911.
1911 – 1911 Eastern North America heat wave killed between 380 and 2,000 people.
1911 – 1911 United Kingdom heat wave was one of the most severe periods of heat to hit the country with temperatures around 36 °C (97 °F). The heat began in early July and didn't let up until mid September where even in September temperatures were still up to 33 °C (91 °F). It took 79 years for temperature higher to be recorded in the United Kingdom during 1990 United Kingdom heat wave.
1913 – in July, the hottest heat wave ever struck California. During this heat wave, Death Valley recorded a record high temperature of 57 °C (134 °F) at Furnace Creek, which still remains the highest ambient air temperature recorded on Earth.
1921 – Hottest July on record across Eastern Canada and parts of the Northeastern US, part of a very warm year in those places. Parts of the United Kingdom also saw recording breaking heat, also part of a very warm year. The Central England Temperature for July was 18.5 °C (65.3 °F), which was the 8th warmest since records began in 1659, and the warmest since 1852.
The year of 1921 was the warmest on record at the time, but has since been eclipsed by 15 other years.
1923–1924 – during a period of 160 such days from 31 October 1923 to 7 April 1924, the Western Australian town of Marble Bar reached 38 °C (100 °F).
1930s – Almost every year from 1930 to 1938 featured historic heat waves and droughts somewhere in North America, part of the Dust Bowl years.
1936 – 1936 North American heat wave during the Dust Bowl, followed one of the coldest winters on record—the 1936 North American cold wave. Massive heat waves across North America were persistent in the 1930s, many mid-Atlantic/
1540 European drought - Extreme drought and heatwave lasting 11 months in Europe.
July 1757 heatwave – Europe, hottest summer in 500 years.
1896 Eastern North America heat wave – killed 1,500 people in August 1896.
1900 – historical heatwave of the center of Argentina between the first eight days of February 1900 known as "the week of fire" affected the city of Buenos Aires and Rosario with temperatures of up to 37 °C (99 °F) but with a very high index of humidity that elevated the sensation of heat to 49 °C (120 °F) severely affecting the health of people causing at least more than 478 fatalities.
1901 – 1901 eastern United States heat wave killed 9,500 in the Eastern United States.
1906 – during the 1906 United Kingdom heat wave which began in August and lasted into September broke numerous records. On September 2 temperatures reached 35.6 °C (96.1 °F), which still holds the September record, however some places beat their local record during September 1911.
1911 – 1911 Eastern North America heat wave killed between 380 and 2,000 people.
1911 – 1911 United Kingdom heat wave was one of the most severe periods of heat to hit the country with temperatures around 36 °C (97 °F). The heat began in early July and didn't let up until mid September where even in September temperatures were still up to 33 °C (91 °F). It took 79 years for temperature higher to be recorded in the United Kingdom during 1990 United Kingdom heat wave.
1913 – in July, the hottest heat wave ever struck California. During this heat wave, Death Valley recorded a record high temperature of 57 °C (134 °F) at Furnace Creek, which still remains the highest ambient air temperature recorded on Earth.
1921 – Hottest July on record across Eastern Canada and parts of the Northeastern US, part of a very warm year in those places. Parts of the United Kingdom also saw recording breaking heat, also part of a very warm year. The Central England Temperature for July was 18.5 °C (65.3 °F), which was the 8th warmest since records began in 1659, and the warmest since 1852.
The year of 1921 was the warmest on record at the time, but has since been eclipsed by 15 other years.
1923–1924 – during a period of 160 such days from 31 October 1923 to 7 April 1924, the Western Australian town of Marble Bar reached 38 °C (100 °F).
1930s – Almost every year from 1930 to 1938 featured historic heat waves and droughts somewhere in North America, part of the Dust Bowl years.
1936 – 1936 North American heat wave during the Dust Bowl, followed one of the coldest winters on record—the 1936 North American cold wave. Massive heat waves across North America were persistent in the 1930s, many mid-Atlantic/
The
recent heat waves are entirely a weather pattern issue, not a climate
issue. Proof of this can be found in the fact that it was a massive
high pressure dome over the region and while this dome was particularly
intense, it is neither unprecedented nor out of the ordinary.
July 14, 1936, Illinois and Ind. were 114F.
Iowa and Wisc. were 113F.
Missouri was 112F, Minn. and Ohio were 110F.
Michigan was a nice, cool 108F during the same period!🙄
The definition given by the IPCC Scientists for the greenhouse effect is:
"Short-wave solar radiation can pass through the clear atmosphere relatively unimpeded. But long-wave terrestrial radiation emitted by the warm surface of the Earth is partially absorbed and then re-emitted by a number of trace gases in the cooler atmosphere above. Since, on average, the outgoing long-wave radiation balances the incoming solar radiation, both the atmosphere and the surface will be warmer than they would be without greenhouse gases ... "
Breaking it down, the theory is that the greenhouse gasses may trap outgoing IR radiation from the surface of the Earth and then a portion of that IR radiation is reflected back to the Earth's surface but the greenhouse gasses, in particular CO2 in an unproven, non-observable process called Backradiation, thus increasing the temperatures of the atmosphere. Of course, to date, there's been NO HOTSPOT found in the Tropical Troposphere as there would be if the Theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming was an actual Scientific occurrence. It's just not there, in fact the opposite is occurring, the Tropical Troposphere is cooling which points to the possibility that our warm and toasty Holocene Interglacial Period is sliding back into the Quaternary Glaciation.
The 1st LoT, the principle of energy conservation is violated because if Backradtion was indeed able to increase initial temperatures, then additional energy would be created out of absolutely nothing without the introduction of any work from outside the system. Sorry, but that's not possible. Now in terms of the 2nd LoT, it indicates that a cooler body cannot pass thermal energy to a hotter body by simple radiative reflection. The entire theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming via the Greenhouse Gas mechanisms are complete violations of the Laws of Thermodynamics,
The fact is that neither the GHE nor the uber-bogus AGW theory have been Scientifically proven, they are merely hypothesis’ and are in direct violation to the Laws of Thermodynamics,
"Short-wave solar radiation can pass through the clear atmosphere relatively unimpeded. But long-wave terrestrial radiation emitted by the warm surface of the Earth is partially absorbed and then re-emitted by a number of trace gases in the cooler atmosphere above. Since, on average, the outgoing long-wave radiation balances the incoming solar radiation, both the atmosphere and the surface will be warmer than they would be without greenhouse gases ... "
Breaking it down, the theory is that the greenhouse gasses may trap outgoing IR radiation from the surface of the Earth and then a portion of that IR radiation is reflected back to the Earth's surface but the greenhouse gasses, in particular CO2 in an unproven, non-observable process called Backradiation, thus increasing the temperatures of the atmosphere. Of course, to date, there's been NO HOTSPOT found in the Tropical Troposphere as there would be if the Theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming was an actual Scientific occurrence. It's just not there, in fact the opposite is occurring, the Tropical Troposphere is cooling which points to the possibility that our warm and toasty Holocene Interglacial Period is sliding back into the Quaternary Glaciation.
The 1st LoT, the principle of energy conservation is violated because if Backradtion was indeed able to increase initial temperatures, then additional energy would be created out of absolutely nothing without the introduction of any work from outside the system. Sorry, but that's not possible. Now in terms of the 2nd LoT, it indicates that a cooler body cannot pass thermal energy to a hotter body by simple radiative reflection. The entire theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming via the Greenhouse Gas mechanisms are complete violations of the Laws of Thermodynamics,
The fact is that neither the GHE nor the uber-bogus AGW theory have been Scientifically proven, they are merely hypothesis’ and are in direct violation to the Laws of Thermodynamics,
Hey Kamakaze, perhaps you and Vacant Joe should read more. The theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming/
Heat, according to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics,
The Earth's climate system is not a closed system like a greenhouse, even adding more CO2 with only means that it can absorb and then emit at the same rate as all other CO2 molecules, the time between absorption and emission is about .00008 of a second, nothing is trapped. Perhaps the biggest question for those who "believe†in the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming is how does CO2 warm the oceans when the retention capacity of the atmosphere is so much less than the oceans themselves?
There are only two things that can heat the oceans, both of those sources are multi-millions of years old, that is the sun and the Earth's thermal crust. CO2 emits LWIR, which barely penetrates the surface skin of the oceans, solar radiation, in the blue- green spectrum penetrates deep into the oceans and that causes all types of circulation, there are both warm and cold oscillations that, in turn, affect climate in various places.
In fact, you will find that there is no single climate on Earth, there are 29 main climates and millions of micro-climates.
The heat found in the oceans originates from the Total Solar Irradiance, and as it was partially from the geothermal activity found within the Earth's crust. Total Solar Irradiance, through several frequencies, passes through the Earth's atmosphere and is absorbed directly into ocean water, those frequencies or wavelengths true into heat within the oceans, 50% odd the Earth's surface is found between 30S to 30N, this is where the sun is high each day in the sky and there are far less cloud cover, Solar Irradiance is extremely high and intense. The fact is that the oceans of the Earth can store heat for Centuries, this is due to the incredible size taking up over 70% of the surface and also to the huge heat storage capacity of seawater.
The heat found in the oceans today may have been stored hundreds of years ago. The mixing levels of layers between the oceans and the atmosphere is a couple hundred meters at best however, on a decadal or centennial level the heat is stored several kilometers down, ocean circulation determines the release of that stored heat, it would also be noted that a warm ocean degasses more CO2. The largest release of CO2 in the last 2000 years occurred, according to NASA, in the Tropics during 2015 and 2016 El Ninos, it is not humans that emit, but the Earth itself.
A little tid-bit for you to ruminate on, the LWIR emitted by an ice cube is "warmer" than the LWIR emitted by CO2 and as hard as it would be to warm the Earth with ice cubes it's even harder with CO2.
Our atmosphere doesn't have very much storage capacity, but what does is water vapor, the entire heat storage capacity of the atmosphere would equal to just a very few meters of the ocean in comparison. So, contrary to what the media puts out, there is not enough storage capacity in the atmosphere for CO2 to be the cause of global warming. In the atmosphere heat escapes very quickly, especially at the poles. So what happens, the cooler air moves overland causes the heat above the ocean to constantly move towards land, this causes more release from the oceans back to the atmosphere, the winds carry oceanic heat to us.
So let me know what you really think you know Kamakaze, probably about as much as you seem to know, or care about our Southern border!
Heat, according to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics,
The Earth's climate system is not a closed system like a greenhouse, even adding more CO2 with only means that it can absorb and then emit at the same rate as all other CO2 molecules, the time between absorption and emission is about .00008 of a second, nothing is trapped. Perhaps the biggest question for those who "believe†in the theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming is how does CO2 warm the oceans when the retention capacity of the atmosphere is so much less than the oceans themselves?
There are only two things that can heat the oceans, both of those sources are multi-millions of years old, that is the sun and the Earth's thermal crust. CO2 emits LWIR, which barely penetrates the surface skin of the oceans, solar radiation, in the blue- green spectrum penetrates deep into the oceans and that causes all types of circulation, there are both warm and cold oscillations that, in turn, affect climate in various places.
In fact, you will find that there is no single climate on Earth, there are 29 main climates and millions of micro-climates.
The heat found in the oceans originates from the Total Solar Irradiance, and as it was partially from the geothermal activity found within the Earth's crust. Total Solar Irradiance, through several frequencies, passes through the Earth's atmosphere and is absorbed directly into ocean water, those frequencies or wavelengths true into heat within the oceans, 50% odd the Earth's surface is found between 30S to 30N, this is where the sun is high each day in the sky and there are far less cloud cover, Solar Irradiance is extremely high and intense. The fact is that the oceans of the Earth can store heat for Centuries, this is due to the incredible size taking up over 70% of the surface and also to the huge heat storage capacity of seawater.
The heat found in the oceans today may have been stored hundreds of years ago. The mixing levels of layers between the oceans and the atmosphere is a couple hundred meters at best however, on a decadal or centennial level the heat is stored several kilometers down, ocean circulation determines the release of that stored heat, it would also be noted that a warm ocean degasses more CO2. The largest release of CO2 in the last 2000 years occurred, according to NASA, in the Tropics during 2015 and 2016 El Ninos, it is not humans that emit, but the Earth itself.
A little tid-bit for you to ruminate on, the LWIR emitted by an ice cube is "warmer" than the LWIR emitted by CO2 and as hard as it would be to warm the Earth with ice cubes it's even harder with CO2.
Our atmosphere doesn't have very much storage capacity, but what does is water vapor, the entire heat storage capacity of the atmosphere would equal to just a very few meters of the ocean in comparison. So, contrary to what the media puts out, there is not enough storage capacity in the atmosphere for CO2 to be the cause of global warming. In the atmosphere heat escapes very quickly, especially at the poles. So what happens, the cooler air moves overland causes the heat above the ocean to constantly move towards land, this causes more release from the oceans back to the atmosphere, the winds carry oceanic heat to us.
So let me know what you really think you know Kamakaze, probably about as much as you seem to know, or care about our Southern border!
Hey Kamakaze, this might blow your mind or perhaps at the very least make you ask a few questions.
What if what you have been told about CO2 increase doesn't tell you the entire story?
Prior to 1958 and the odd homogenization of CO2 data that has taken place since, due to the Keeling Curve, a very accurate method of Chemical Analysis was used from 1812 to measure levels of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere. During this period between 1812-1958, there were over 90,000 accurate analyses conducted and reproduced...de
"More than 90,000 accurate chemical analyses of CO2 in air since 1812 are summarised. The historic chemical data reveal that changes in CO2 track changes in temperature, and therefore climate in contrast to the simple, monotonically increasing CO2 trend depicted in the post-1990 literature on climate-change.
Between 1857 and 1958, the Pettenkofer process was the standard analytical method for determining atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, and usually achieved an accuracy better than 3%. These determinations were made by several scientists of Nobel Prize level distinction. Following Callendar (1938), modern climatologists have generally ignored the historic determinations of CO2, despite the techniques being standard text book procedures in several different disciplines. Chemical methods were discredited as unreliable choosing only few which fit the assumption of a climate CO2 connection.†Beck et al, 2007
In a 1910 newspaper interview, one of the fathers of the greenhouse gas theory, Dr. Svante Arrhenius, Nobel Prize Winner in Chemistry, stated that in 1910, that CO2 was 1 part for every 2500 parts of "airâ€. In our terminology today, that equates to 400 ppmv. Obviously this should raise questions in the minds of anyone who doesn't simply swallow anything and everything they are told to believe.
For instance, if you look at the research. Lundegardh in 1934 showed that CO2 levels dropped to 335 ppmv from 400 ppmv when Svante Arrhenius measured it in 1910. Then in 1938 Duerst analysis showed a drastic increase again to 380 ppmv, followed by Kreutz in 1943 with measurements of 420 ppmv, then it dropped again when Misra, in 1945 measured 410 ppmv. In 1950 the Scholander research measured the highest of the 20th Century at 430 ppmv. By the time of the Steinhauser measurements of 1960 the levels had once again dropped to the level of about 335 ppmv.
There has always been the human tendency for the propagation of popular delusions, modern science itself is not immune to such delusions...
When a scientific hypothesis becomes so popular that it becomes sacred, science then becomes susceptible to popular delusions and no longer is subject to criticism. At this point, the popular orthodoxy replaces skeptical science and questions, the foundation of the Scientific Method, are no longer valued.
When such popular Scientific delusions gain ascendancy to the point that public policies are governed by such popularized delusions, there are unintended consequences that pose extraordinary dangers to society as a whole, such is the case with the very popular Scientific delusion that the current level of Atmospheric CO2 endangers the Earth and therefore, desperate measures must be taken to ameliorate that danger.
Yet, from the perspective of the historic Scientific Method used from 1812 to about 1958, the danger is a complete fabrication based on an incorrect Scientific premise, this is not the first time an incorrect premise has drastically affected Scientific authority.
NOAA states the nature of its methodology, but as you can see, it is far from being Scientific, rather it is a statistical sleight-of-hand
If you put your faith in Scientific Organizations then it's good to remember that in 1912 a lone as scientist, Alfred Wegener, hypothesized that the Earth's Continents were once very close together and over millions of years drifted apart. The reaction to Alfred Wegener's Theory of Continental Drift tells us a great deal about the dangers of Consensus Science. While we like to think that modern scientists are driven only by reason and facts, that is not the case today anymore than it was in 1912 or in the time of Galileo.
Much like today, the scientific community held a tightly controlled consensus on what was accepted "science†and they considered was not accepted. Alfred Wegener was subjected to the wrath of Scientific Consensus and the political powers that supported that carefully guarded Consensus.
At the time Consensus Science and the establishment powers behind it eventually shut down all discussion on the subject, no debate was allowed, no skepticism of the Consensus Science was acceptable, Alfred Wegener and his few followers were made laughing stocks, called all sorts of names because the denied the what was then the Consensus Science of the day. Sound familiar?
It took almost 50 years before Wegener’s Theory of Continental Drift to even be talked about again, more years still for it to be a proven theory.
Imagine the potential scientific advancement and our understanding of the world if we were not encumbered by the idea that a consensus opinion proves an opinion or Hypothesis is correct, nothing is more foreign to actual science or the scientific method than that single idea. The foundation is all science is skepticism and the resulting questions that naturally arise from that skepticism to seek yet undiscovered answers.
What if what you have been told about CO2 increase doesn't tell you the entire story?
Prior to 1958 and the odd homogenization of CO2 data that has taken place since, due to the Keeling Curve, a very accurate method of Chemical Analysis was used from 1812 to measure levels of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere. During this period between 1812-1958, there were over 90,000 accurate analyses conducted and reproduced...de
"More than 90,000 accurate chemical analyses of CO2 in air since 1812 are summarised. The historic chemical data reveal that changes in CO2 track changes in temperature, and therefore climate in contrast to the simple, monotonically increasing CO2 trend depicted in the post-1990 literature on climate-change.
Between 1857 and 1958, the Pettenkofer process was the standard analytical method for determining atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, and usually achieved an accuracy better than 3%. These determinations were made by several scientists of Nobel Prize level distinction. Following Callendar (1938), modern climatologists have generally ignored the historic determinations of CO2, despite the techniques being standard text book procedures in several different disciplines. Chemical methods were discredited as unreliable choosing only few which fit the assumption of a climate CO2 connection.†Beck et al, 2007
In a 1910 newspaper interview, one of the fathers of the greenhouse gas theory, Dr. Svante Arrhenius, Nobel Prize Winner in Chemistry, stated that in 1910, that CO2 was 1 part for every 2500 parts of "airâ€. In our terminology today, that equates to 400 ppmv. Obviously this should raise questions in the minds of anyone who doesn't simply swallow anything and everything they are told to believe.
For instance, if you look at the research. Lundegardh in 1934 showed that CO2 levels dropped to 335 ppmv from 400 ppmv when Svante Arrhenius measured it in 1910. Then in 1938 Duerst analysis showed a drastic increase again to 380 ppmv, followed by Kreutz in 1943 with measurements of 420 ppmv, then it dropped again when Misra, in 1945 measured 410 ppmv. In 1950 the Scholander research measured the highest of the 20th Century at 430 ppmv. By the time of the Steinhauser measurements of 1960 the levels had once again dropped to the level of about 335 ppmv.
There has always been the human tendency for the propagation of popular delusions, modern science itself is not immune to such delusions...
When a scientific hypothesis becomes so popular that it becomes sacred, science then becomes susceptible to popular delusions and no longer is subject to criticism. At this point, the popular orthodoxy replaces skeptical science and questions, the foundation of the Scientific Method, are no longer valued.
When such popular Scientific delusions gain ascendancy to the point that public policies are governed by such popularized delusions, there are unintended consequences that pose extraordinary dangers to society as a whole, such is the case with the very popular Scientific delusion that the current level of Atmospheric CO2 endangers the Earth and therefore, desperate measures must be taken to ameliorate that danger.
Yet, from the perspective of the historic Scientific Method used from 1812 to about 1958, the danger is a complete fabrication based on an incorrect Scientific premise, this is not the first time an incorrect premise has drastically affected Scientific authority.
NOAA states the nature of its methodology, but as you can see, it is far from being Scientific, rather it is a statistical sleight-of-hand
If you put your faith in Scientific Organizations then it's good to remember that in 1912 a lone as scientist, Alfred Wegener, hypothesized that the Earth's Continents were once very close together and over millions of years drifted apart. The reaction to Alfred Wegener's Theory of Continental Drift tells us a great deal about the dangers of Consensus Science. While we like to think that modern scientists are driven only by reason and facts, that is not the case today anymore than it was in 1912 or in the time of Galileo.
Much like today, the scientific community held a tightly controlled consensus on what was accepted "science†and they considered was not accepted. Alfred Wegener was subjected to the wrath of Scientific Consensus and the political powers that supported that carefully guarded Consensus.
At the time Consensus Science and the establishment powers behind it eventually shut down all discussion on the subject, no debate was allowed, no skepticism of the Consensus Science was acceptable, Alfred Wegener and his few followers were made laughing stocks, called all sorts of names because the denied the what was then the Consensus Science of the day. Sound familiar?
It took almost 50 years before Wegener’s Theory of Continental Drift to even be talked about again, more years still for it to be a proven theory.
Imagine the potential scientific advancement and our understanding of the world if we were not encumbered by the idea that a consensus opinion proves an opinion or Hypothesis is correct, nothing is more foreign to actual science or the scientific method than that single idea. The foundation is all science is skepticism and the resulting questions that naturally arise from that skepticism to seek yet undiscovered answers.
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Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates said that Joe Biden was wrong on every decision in the last forty years. (He may have been referring only to foreign policy.) At any rate, it looks like Joe's Veep is jumping on the same bandwagon.
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at September 22, 2021 10:53 AM (lydPE)
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That man could flip a coin and get the wrong answer every time. He has a kind of psychic power!
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at September 23, 2021 07:19 AM (IJhtV)
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