December 20, 2019
The lie of "Trump asked Ukraine to investigate Biden"
Bill H.
In response to Tim's post Evangelical Turncoat
Except that Donald Trump did not ask Ukraine to investigate Biden. He asked Ukraine to investigate internal Ukrainian corruption surrounding the firing of an investigator.
Yes, this was the investigator that Joe Biden demanded be fired, but he was fired because he was investigating corruption within Ukraine that Joe Biden did not want uncovered. It was the firing of the investigator and the Ukrainian corruption that Trump asked Zelensky to investigate, not Joe Biden's role in it.
The lie of "Trump asked Ukraine to investigate Biden"has been repeated so many times that even Trump supporters have come to believe it and are now trying to justify it. Don't try to justify, refute it, because it is a lie.
Trump clouded the issue when he said at the end of the call, "You really need to look into this because what Joe Biden did was really shameful."
But analyze what he is saying. Note the highlight. He is saying that Joe Biden stopped an investigation that needed to proceed, which was a shameful act, and so you need to restart that investigation. The remark about Joe Biden is merely explanatory about why they need to restart the investigation that Joe Biden stopped.
An investigation of Joe Biden for "doing what Trump is accused of doing"is not needed, because he is on film not only admitting to have done it, but actually bragging about it. Why would Trump ask Ukraine to investigate a matter which is already proven beyond any possible doubt?
In response to Tim's post Evangelical Turncoat
"Is he not aware that Trump asked
Ukraine to investigate Biden precisely because Biden actually did what
Trump has been accused of doing?"
Except that Donald Trump did not ask Ukraine to investigate Biden. He asked Ukraine to investigate internal Ukrainian corruption surrounding the firing of an investigator.
Yes, this was the investigator that Joe Biden demanded be fired, but he was fired because he was investigating corruption within Ukraine that Joe Biden did not want uncovered. It was the firing of the investigator and the Ukrainian corruption that Trump asked Zelensky to investigate, not Joe Biden's role in it.
The lie of "Trump asked Ukraine to investigate Biden"has been repeated so many times that even Trump supporters have come to believe it and are now trying to justify it. Don't try to justify, refute it, because it is a lie.
Trump clouded the issue when he said at the end of the call, "You really need to look into this because what Joe Biden did was really shameful."
But analyze what he is saying. Note the highlight. He is saying that Joe Biden stopped an investigation that needed to proceed, which was a shameful act, and so you need to restart that investigation. The remark about Joe Biden is merely explanatory about why they need to restart the investigation that Joe Biden stopped.
An investigation of Joe Biden for "doing what Trump is accused of doing"is not needed, because he is on film not only admitting to have done it, but actually bragging about it. Why would Trump ask Ukraine to investigate a matter which is already proven beyond any possible doubt?
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