October 05, 2019
Paul Mirengoff worries about polling data from Quinnipiac that suggests that 52% of voters think Trump should be removed from office if he tried to use Ukraine to dig up dirt on a political opponent.
Why worry? Mirengoff says:
Note that the question here wasn’t about a quid pro quo; it was about asking for help in defeating a political opponent. Even if the president simply asked for this as a favor, a majority of voters see this as grounds for impeachment, at least according to the Quinnipiac survey.
I suspect the Democrats’ own polling yielded a similar result. This might well have been what convinced Nancy Pelosi to give the green light for an "impeachment inquiry.†It signaled that the Democrats can make substantial headway with a simple narrative that doesn’t rely on the existence of a quid pro quo (though the Dems will certainly press hard to find evidence of one).
First, bear in mind that on October 19, 2016 Quinnipiac had Hillary Clinton winning by over 7%, and that was at the end when the polls usually tighten up. (They showed her up by over ten percent in August.) We are now over a year out from the election and Q is giving a bare majority to impeachment, not of likely voters, I might add. The reality is this is probably ten percent above where it should be or more. It's a fake news poll. Not sure how Mirengoff is falling for this.Second, no, Nancy Pelosi doesn't have any internal polling showing her anything. She is under intense pressure to do this, and at the same time it is increasingly obvious the Democrats are in trouble with the electorate. She is throwing a Hail Mary pass here, launching an INVESTIGATION to try to turn something, anything up to use to destroy Trump. She knows she isn't going to succeed in removing him from office, but she hopes to bloody him up and at the same time maybe turn something up. Again, Mirengoff ought to know that.
Pelosi can no longer restrain her base, and she must gin up enthusiasm from them to gain any momentum.
Also, what was the context? In theory most people would agree asking for help from a foreign government to hurt a political enemy is wrong, but do they necessarily think it wrong of Trump, who is fighting against a brutal Deep State assault? And what if in the same poll the question was asked about Democratic ties to Ukraine in regards to the "Russian Collusion" story?
I think that many in the public realize what Trump has had to endure. I remember when they said Bill Clinton was the "first Black President' because he "was being pursued by The Man". How much more can that be said of Mr. Trump? What was the racial breakdown of this poll? Did blacks stand with Trump or turn against him?
These types of polls serve to drive opinion, not reflect it. Mirenghoff should know better.
Quinnipiac has been full of all sorts of anti-Trump polling that I do not believe reflects reality. Trump is losing women. He's losing the suburbs. Americans hate his trade policies, etc. Yet every time new polls come out showing Trump is gaining ground. How is that? Clearly Quinnipiac is manipulating the data - or just polling in so lazy a fashion as to get these results.
Look, According to Rasmussen 48% of likely voters approve of Trump's performance. And it's not just Rasmussen; most polling shows Trump well ahead of where Obama was at this point in his Presidency.
Rasmussen also found that :
And only 23% of voters think we should worry more about impeaching Trump than about fixing illegal immigration.
And nearly everyone is angry at the media.
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