Cold Fusion?

Timothy Birdnow

Here is an interesting thread about cold fusion on Facebook. I thought everyone might enjoy it.

Richard Cronin says:

Many may recall "Cold Fusion” and "Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENR)” proposed by Fleischman and Pons. Their claims were dismissed when their work could not be replicated.

Now Alberto Carpinteri has proposed a path to LENR via Piezonuclear Fission. That is, the great pressures experienced in rock fracturing during major seismic events can induce such nuclear fission events with elements as light as Iron. This phenomenon is an outgrowth of the high pressure "Bridgeman Effect” observed in minerals as well as the existence of Bridgemanite, a hydrous mineral which decomposes just above the Transition region between the Upper Mantle and Lower Mantle to liberate water. Obviously, such high pressure conditions are present deeper inside the planet.

Admittedly, Carpinteri’s work is very controversial but he had received support for several years from the Italian government. Just recently, the Italian government research agencies have abruptly withdrawn funding.

Perhaps the most damning aspect of Carpinteri’s work is that it provides another, previously unaccounted path to produce CO2 from non-anthropogen ic sources. The Italian government can’t have any of that.

Quoting from page 7 of 11: "Because these periodicities were almost absent in the anthropogenic time series, it could be deduced that the fluctuations in the atmospheric CO2 growth rate were driven by the seismic activity rather than by anthropogenic emissions.”

https://res.mdpi.com/d_attachment/sci/sci-01-00002/article_deploy/sci-01-00002.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1dYD5udD5fnM00Gl76Qi58ojGGfMVOORWhL4ygISXmcgzWO3VxiYAlI88 Richard continues:

The last decade has seen an explosion of advances in basic science, but not here.

I am stunned by the number of papers on Earth Sciences, Nuclear Physics, etc. — principally from the Ukraine, Russia, some from Italy and India and now from China.

We are dilettantes. We are not serious.

We are more concerned about being "woke”.

Raymond Diver asks:

WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE FRENCHIES WORKING ON THE SUN NUCLEAR REACTORS???

Richard responds:

I assume that you’re speaking of fusion reactors. Yeah, we keep hearing about "it’s almost there”. Mebbe a decade away. Mebbe 2 decades. Mebbe 50 years. Mebbe.

The engineering and reliability hurdles will never exceed the simplicity, cost, nor reliability of gas turbines and fuel cells.

My own take on things is the same as all historical progress in human affairs and technology. There has always been a migration towards greater independence and distribution of power. Distribution of risk and reduction of breakdown affecting the entire system always comes by redundancy and spreading the risk.

When we finally get beyond this insanity of CO2 as an existential threat, and at some point we will, all capital-intensi
James G. Gallinger replies:

I am damned sure that the fusion experiments will never develop a net positive energy in a fashion that will obtain useable energy on a continuous basis.... At best they will hit positive net energy return on a one shot at a time with a long cooling period in between... Fission at least can occur in a cooling / heat transfer medium... Fusion has to occur in air, a medium that is a very poor transfer medium... The reaction chamber has to absorb not only the heat of the fusion... But also the equal energy required to start the fusion... All by radiation... Even if they hit equal energy... All that energy has to be stored to start the next reaction... But no energy conversion / storage is 100% efficient ... So it will take a considerable positive net energy just to keep it going....

I'd say that was a bullshit claim... The military may always be open to new possible ideas, but they would never contract for twenty of something that don't work.. They might fund the research to complete one trial reactor... but never 20 un proven ideas...

Richard Cronin replies:

Never doubt the ability of the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA) to burn money by the trainload.

Lunatics. Lunatics.

James G Gallinger

I know a guy who works in Info Tech. As a contractor he took a job with the Mitre Corp. Mitre is solely devoted to work for the Military Industrial Complex. Mitre is run by a bunch of ex-spooks and ex-Military.

Charlie said the security measures, pre-screening, and separation of work processes (including separate parking lots, entrances, building facilities and cafeterias) were nothing that he had ever seen.

Charlie said the money was great but the whole thing was just too weird so he quit.

Here’s a story from 2010, in the native state of Hidin’ Biden.

https://meaww.com/unsolved-mysteries-john-jack-wheeler-body-ex-white-house-aide-dumpster-agencies-no-clue-netflix

Balin replies:

This sounds like the guys I read about, but not the actual article. I'll keep digging. https://phys.org/news/2011-01-italian-scientists-cold-fusion-video.html

Legal problems don't necessarily prove anything, but they do demonstrate a large degree of interest...
http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2016/04/17/caterwauling-e-cat-cold-fusion/

And here's the guy who claims to have debunked the 2011 demonstration, but not the later claimed 1MW 12 month demonstration. https://skepticalinquirer.org/2019/05/rossis-e-cat-expose-of-a-claimed-cold-fusion-device/

I jump in:

Balin King Khazad-dum adds:

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