July 17, 2018
'80's on the Red Phone demanding the Media and Democrats send their Foreign Policy back
Timothy Birdnow
Romney, who calls Russia our "No. 1 geopolitical foe," doesn't seem to realize it's the 21st century. #RomneyNotReady http://t.co/xcvhOAFS
— The Democrats (@TheDemocrats) October 22, 2012
You know, when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State she made a big show of her "Russian reset" including carrying around a big cardboard button. Yet when President Trump meets with the Russian President and actually tries to reset relations with the world's second most powerful country (and Russia IS the second most powerful, despite ambitions by China to the contrary) he is branded a traitor. Strange.
When Barack Obama told Russia's Potemkin Village President Michael Medvedev that he would have more flexibility after the election he was a statesman. Trump fails to publicly scold Putin and he's a villain, in the pay of Russia. Strange; Obama was being statesmanlike promising to give Putin more once he no longer has to face the voters.
When Hillary brokers the sale of a quarter of all uranium in the U.S. to a Russian company in return for big donations to the Clinton Foundation that was just a fluke. When Trump meets with Putin and offers him nothing of substance that's an outrage.
We seem to have a serious problem with misplaced anger in this country. The fact is, had Trump taken an adversarial role here he would have been criticized just as much if not more so as an angry, bellicose man unable to keep his personal emotions in check. This was a no-win for Trump.
The Democrats and Deep State forget that FDR initiated the first detente with the Soviet Union, meeting with Stalin at Yalta and pretty much kissing the second worst tyrant in history's, ub, ring. It was Roosevelt who vetoed Churchill's plan to invade Europe in Greece, to cut the Red Army off. It was Roosevelt who allowed the Russians to take Berlin, holding the American military in a two week waiting pattern, and thus giving the eastern half of Europe to the Russians.
And they have forgotten that Ted Kennedy himself, the liar, er, lion of the Senate, wrote to Soviet leaders promising a less bellicose American foreign policy if they would work with him - something approaching treason. They have forgotten that it was the Democrats who promoted the nuclear freeze movement. They have forgotten that Barney Frank condemned Ronald Reagan using almost identical language to the Soviets because Reagan wouldn't give on nuclear disarmament when Reagan sought to deploy Pershing missiles in Europe then offered to not deploy them if the Soviets would de-deploy their own version. (Eighty percent of Democrats voted against deployment.) As late as 2011 Frank was pushing a nuclear freeze on the basis that Russia posed no danger to the united States.
Democrats apparently forgot that Barack Hussein Obama himself argued for the nuclear freeze in a 1983 college essay. Here are a few choice words from Obama on the matter:
"Generally, the narrow focus of the Freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion dollar erector sets. When Peter Tosh sings that "everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice," one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself.
...
By organizing and educating the Columbia community, such activities [like protests, etc.] lay the foundation for future mobilization against the relentless, often silent spread of militarism in the country."
[...]
"The Reagan administration's stalling at the Geneva talks on nuclear weapons has thus already caused severe tension and could ultimately bring about a dangerous rift between the United States and Western Europe. By being intransigent, Reagan is playing directly into the Russians' hands."
End excerpt.
Strange; Democrats now want the "silent spread of militarism" and demand that Donald Trump accept Reaganistic bluster, ramp up tensions into a new Cold War.
As Stephen Cohen, Professor Emeritus of Russian Studies at Princeton opined in The Nation:
"And yet today, post–Soviet Russia and the United States are in a new and even more dangerous Cold War, one provoked in no small measure by the Democratic Party, from President Clinton’s winner-take-all policies toward Russia in the 1990s to President Obama’s refusal to cooperate significantly with Moscow against international terrorism, particularly in Syria; the role of his administration in the illegal overthrow of Ukrainian President Yanukovych in 2014 (a coup by any other name); and the still-shadowy role of Obama’s intelligence chiefs, not only those at the FBI, in instigating Russiagate allegations against Donald Trump early in 2016.
(Obama’s so-called "reset†of Russia policy was a kind of pseudo-détente and doomed from the outset. It asked of Moscow, and got, far more than the Obama administration offered;"
End excerpt.
And Cohen places the blame squarely on the Democrats and the Obama Deep State.
"In the past, a "dovish†wing of the Democratic Party supported détente, but not this time. Russiagate allegations, still mostly a Democratic project, have been leveled by leading Democrats and their mainstream media against Trump every time he has tried to develop necessary cooperative agreements with President Putin, characterizing those initiatives as disloyal to America, even "treasonous.â€
Still more, the same Democratic actors have increasingly suggested that normal "contacts†with Russia at various levels - a practice traditionally encouraged by pro-détente US leaders - are evidence of "collusion with the Kremlin.†(A particularly egregious example is General Michael Flynn’s "contacts†with a Russian ambassador on behalf of President-elect Trump, a long-standing tradition now being criminalized.) Still worse, criticism of US policy toward Russia since the 1990s, which Cohen and a few other Russia specialists have often expressed, is being equated with "colluding†with Putin’s views, as in the case of a few words by Carter Page - that is, also as disloyal.
Until recently, Democratic Russiagate allegations were motivated primarily by a need to explain away and take revenge for Hillary Clinton’s defeat in the 2016 presidential election. Now, however, they are being codified into a Democratic Party program for escalated and indefinite Cold War against Russia, presumably to be a major plank in the party’s appeal to voters in 2018 and 2020, as evidenced by two recent publications: a flagrantly cold-warfare article coauthored by former Vice President Joseph Biden, who is clearly already campaigning for the party’s 2020 presidential nomination, in the current issue of Foreign Affairs; and an even more expansive "report†produced by Democratic Senator Ben Cardin purporting to show that Putin is attacking not only America, as he purportedly did in 2016, but democracies everywhere in the world and that America must respond accordingly."
End excerpt.
Indeed; the Democrats and their media allies are demanding policies that they abhorred a few years ago. One wonders; are they mad that we have now surpassed the Soviet Union on the road to socialism? Maybe they are cheesed off that the Russians turned their backs on the course the Dems are pursuing.
Uh, American media and Democrats - the eighties are calling and they want their foreign policy back.
Romney, who calls Russia our "No. 1 geopolitical foe," doesn't seem to realize it's the 21st century. #RomneyNotReady http://t.co/xcvhOAFS
— The Democrats (@TheDemocrats) October 22, 2012
You know, when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State she made a big show of her "Russian reset" including carrying around a big cardboard button. Yet when President Trump meets with the Russian President and actually tries to reset relations with the world's second most powerful country (and Russia IS the second most powerful, despite ambitions by China to the contrary) he is branded a traitor. Strange.
When Barack Obama told Russia's Potemkin Village President Michael Medvedev that he would have more flexibility after the election he was a statesman. Trump fails to publicly scold Putin and he's a villain, in the pay of Russia. Strange; Obama was being statesmanlike promising to give Putin more once he no longer has to face the voters.
When Hillary brokers the sale of a quarter of all uranium in the U.S. to a Russian company in return for big donations to the Clinton Foundation that was just a fluke. When Trump meets with Putin and offers him nothing of substance that's an outrage.
We seem to have a serious problem with misplaced anger in this country. The fact is, had Trump taken an adversarial role here he would have been criticized just as much if not more so as an angry, bellicose man unable to keep his personal emotions in check. This was a no-win for Trump.
The Democrats and Deep State forget that FDR initiated the first detente with the Soviet Union, meeting with Stalin at Yalta and pretty much kissing the second worst tyrant in history's, ub, ring. It was Roosevelt who vetoed Churchill's plan to invade Europe in Greece, to cut the Red Army off. It was Roosevelt who allowed the Russians to take Berlin, holding the American military in a two week waiting pattern, and thus giving the eastern half of Europe to the Russians.
And they have forgotten that Ted Kennedy himself, the liar, er, lion of the Senate, wrote to Soviet leaders promising a less bellicose American foreign policy if they would work with him - something approaching treason. They have forgotten that it was the Democrats who promoted the nuclear freeze movement. They have forgotten that Barney Frank condemned Ronald Reagan using almost identical language to the Soviets because Reagan wouldn't give on nuclear disarmament when Reagan sought to deploy Pershing missiles in Europe then offered to not deploy them if the Soviets would de-deploy their own version. (Eighty percent of Democrats voted against deployment.) As late as 2011 Frank was pushing a nuclear freeze on the basis that Russia posed no danger to the united States.
Democrats apparently forgot that Barack Hussein Obama himself argued for the nuclear freeze in a 1983 college essay. Here are a few choice words from Obama on the matter:
"Generally, the narrow focus of the Freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion dollar erector sets. When Peter Tosh sings that "everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice," one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself.
...
By organizing and educating the Columbia community, such activities [like protests, etc.] lay the foundation for future mobilization against the relentless, often silent spread of militarism in the country."
[...]
"The Reagan administration's stalling at the Geneva talks on nuclear weapons has thus already caused severe tension and could ultimately bring about a dangerous rift between the United States and Western Europe. By being intransigent, Reagan is playing directly into the Russians' hands."
End excerpt.
Strange; Democrats now want the "silent spread of militarism" and demand that Donald Trump accept Reaganistic bluster, ramp up tensions into a new Cold War.
As Stephen Cohen, Professor Emeritus of Russian Studies at Princeton opined in The Nation:
"And yet today, post–Soviet Russia and the United States are in a new and even more dangerous Cold War, one provoked in no small measure by the Democratic Party, from President Clinton’s winner-take-all policies toward Russia in the 1990s to President Obama’s refusal to cooperate significantly with Moscow against international terrorism, particularly in Syria; the role of his administration in the illegal overthrow of Ukrainian President Yanukovych in 2014 (a coup by any other name); and the still-shadowy role of Obama’s intelligence chiefs, not only those at the FBI, in instigating Russiagate allegations against Donald Trump early in 2016.
(Obama’s so-called "reset†of Russia policy was a kind of pseudo-détente and doomed from the outset. It asked of Moscow, and got, far more than the Obama administration offered;"
End excerpt.
And Cohen places the blame squarely on the Democrats and the Obama Deep State.
"In the past, a "dovish†wing of the Democratic Party supported détente, but not this time. Russiagate allegations, still mostly a Democratic project, have been leveled by leading Democrats and their mainstream media against Trump every time he has tried to develop necessary cooperative agreements with President Putin, characterizing those initiatives as disloyal to America, even "treasonous.â€
Still more, the same Democratic actors have increasingly suggested that normal "contacts†with Russia at various levels - a practice traditionally encouraged by pro-détente US leaders - are evidence of "collusion with the Kremlin.†(A particularly egregious example is General Michael Flynn’s "contacts†with a Russian ambassador on behalf of President-elect Trump, a long-standing tradition now being criminalized.) Still worse, criticism of US policy toward Russia since the 1990s, which Cohen and a few other Russia specialists have often expressed, is being equated with "colluding†with Putin’s views, as in the case of a few words by Carter Page - that is, also as disloyal.
Until recently, Democratic Russiagate allegations were motivated primarily by a need to explain away and take revenge for Hillary Clinton’s defeat in the 2016 presidential election. Now, however, they are being codified into a Democratic Party program for escalated and indefinite Cold War against Russia, presumably to be a major plank in the party’s appeal to voters in 2018 and 2020, as evidenced by two recent publications: a flagrantly cold-warfare article coauthored by former Vice President Joseph Biden, who is clearly already campaigning for the party’s 2020 presidential nomination, in the current issue of Foreign Affairs; and an even more expansive "report†produced by Democratic Senator Ben Cardin purporting to show that Putin is attacking not only America, as he purportedly did in 2016, but democracies everywhere in the world and that America must respond accordingly."
End excerpt.
Indeed; the Democrats and their media allies are demanding policies that they abhorred a few years ago. One wonders; are they mad that we have now surpassed the Soviet Union on the road to socialism? Maybe they are cheesed off that the Russians turned their backs on the course the Dems are pursuing.
Uh, American media and Democrats - the eighties are calling and they want their foreign policy back.
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This is one reason you always analyze external threats by capabilities, as well as intensions. You never know when an insane faction fight in another country gets resolved by an attempt to destroy yours, just because it's convenient for one faction.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2018 06:01 PM (FPIRN)
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Very true Anonymous. It's especially true with powers capable of seriously hurting you. Capabilities are very important. I imagine we have contingencies in place for India or Israel, and we should. The Shah of Iran was our good buddy too at one time. Ditto South Africa. Now we would be very alarmed if either had nuclear capabilities (South Africa likely had a couple of nukes - they did do some tests, after all.)
The Soviet Union was a great threat back then and Russia poses a threat now. The Democrats and the media never thought the USSR was the problem, but rather the U.S., and they only thing Russia is a problem now because it advances their political interests. The same holds true of the GOP, perhaps to a lesser degree.
We fumbled the ball with Russia back in the '90's and are paying for it now. Of course, it didn't help that the Mad Hungarian, George Soros, crashed their economy and helped paved the way for Tsar Vlad I. But we didn't give them much help.
BTW, Trump said it and he's right; NATO expansion was a big deal to the Russkies and we shouldn't have pursued it. We financed and supported the Contras in Nicaragua for the very same reason the Russians invaded Ukraine. Not saying the Ukrainian invasion was right, but it was forseeable to anyone who knows anything about Russia. Our going into Iran, Afghanistan, and then trying to go into Syria was another such; like the Soviets moving into Mexico and Canada back during the Cold War. We may as well have given them a wedgie and stolen their lunch money. Russia always gets upset when a foreign power invades a border country.
Ah well; I digress. At any rate, your point is spot on!
The Soviet Union was a great threat back then and Russia poses a threat now. The Democrats and the media never thought the USSR was the problem, but rather the U.S., and they only thing Russia is a problem now because it advances their political interests. The same holds true of the GOP, perhaps to a lesser degree.
We fumbled the ball with Russia back in the '90's and are paying for it now. Of course, it didn't help that the Mad Hungarian, George Soros, crashed their economy and helped paved the way for Tsar Vlad I. But we didn't give them much help.
BTW, Trump said it and he's right; NATO expansion was a big deal to the Russkies and we shouldn't have pursued it. We financed and supported the Contras in Nicaragua for the very same reason the Russians invaded Ukraine. Not saying the Ukrainian invasion was right, but it was forseeable to anyone who knows anything about Russia. Our going into Iran, Afghanistan, and then trying to go into Syria was another such; like the Soviets moving into Mexico and Canada back during the Cold War. We may as well have given them a wedgie and stolen their lunch money. Russia always gets upset when a foreign power invades a border country.
Ah well; I digress. At any rate, your point is spot on!
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