October 18, 2019
Syrial Killer
Timothy Birdnow
Lester Dolt, er, Holt had this to say about the Turkey/Kurd situation:
On Facebook a bit of an argument erupted over Trump's pullout from Syria. A guy named Jeff observed:
A woman named Mandy snarkily replied:
A guy named Mike jumped in:
Our old buddy Wil Wirtanen replied:
I replied:
and another:
Lester Dolt, er, Holt had this to say about the Turkey/Kurd situation:
Turkey is demanding that the Kurds lay down their weapons or it won’t
stop its invasion of Northern Syria, but President Trump says that’s
the business of Russia and Syria, whose forces are now in Kurdish
territories after the U.S. was ordered out.
On Facebook a bit of an argument erupted over Trump's pullout from Syria. A guy named Jeff observed:
That is the best thing I've heard all day... Let them sort it out
There were only 50-100 troops they all would have been what... Slaughtered ? Sometimes allies need to be reconsidered...
There were only 50-100 troops they all would have been what... Slaughtered ? Sometimes allies need to be reconsidered...
A woman named Mandy snarkily replied:
Jeff, you do realize we're not America at all worth Jack ship without
our allies right?? We are absolutely nothing without the channels we
have in this world and if we alienate those channels we truly are
....Somalia....
A guy named Mike jumped in:
You wouldn't look so foolish if you spent five minutes doing the
research that shows NOBODY in either party thinks Trump did the right
thing by abandoning our allies.
Our old buddy Wil Wirtanen replied:
Jeff is correct. If the Demented Democrats protected our borders as
much as they want to protect the Syrian border we would not have the
problems we now have. Besides if Nag Nancy wants our troops to be
involved bring up a vote to go to war. Also wasn't these Hypocrites
wanting us out of Syria.
I replied:
- Mandy your claim that we "aren't jack ship without our allies" is undefensible. In point of fact our allies aren't "jack ship" without US. WE are the ones who do all the heavy lifting in the world. We pay all the bills. Ask yourself; are the Chinese nothing because they don't involve themselves in everyone else's wars? You need to look a little closer at modern history.
- BTW, the Kurds are not a monolithic bunch. In fact, the PKK are MARXISTS and we are idiots if we help them. There are some who are Islamists too. It's like thinking all Native Americans were the same and then trying to eliminate them as we did in the Nineteenth century. There was no "indian" but a whole lot of different nations. You want to lump the Kurds together in the same fashion then say we "abandoned" them. It is not so
and another:
- Alliences are not marriages. Oh, and who cares what the architects of bad policy think, Michael Austin? And by "everyone in Washington" you mean all the journalists and Democrats, don't you! Look around; people like Rand Paul are on board with Trump's actions. You haven't heard of any of them because the media dutifully doesn't report them.
- It is fair to disagree with this policy, but it should be done because being IN Syria is good policy, not because you simply hate Trump and oppose him to oppose him. Our Syria policy has been rudderless since Obama/Clinton started pushing for regime change there. We have no long term plan - just endless warfare in a civil war that is not our own. Had we not gotten involved in the first place and created a power vacuum we would not have seen the rise of ISIS, the invasion of Europe by "refugees", or the troubles the Kurds are facing. As it is, we have to have an exit strategy, and people who opposed Bush in Iraq now demand Trump continue endless war. If you really believe that, that is fine, but you have to explain what we are trying to accomplish, how we will do so, and how we will get out.
- You demanded it of Bush when he intervened; why not ask that of the Democrats now?
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Asking Lester Holt about this sounds quite a bit like asking my dog Bijou for intelligent comments about the goings-on in that region of the world. Mind you, Bijou's a very intelligent dog, but he's totally clueless about events outside our own neighborhood. To give him his due, he refrains from commenting about the outside world.
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at October 19, 2019 10:21 AM (glpcc)
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Yeah; Holt is pretty clueless. In fact I think Bijou would probably be worth listening to about world events; at least he wouldn't be giving out MISinformationL!
Posted by: Timothy Birdnow at October 21, 2019 07:08 AM (FgUWJ)
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I hate to admit it, but Bijou's a socialist; he'll cozy up to anybody who'll feed him, or just give him a good belly scratch. But at least he's honest about it, which counts for something.
Posted by: Dana Mathewson at October 21, 2019 04:05 PM (7dO9x)
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